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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCHv3 2/5] printk: introduce printing kernel thread
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:17:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170628131732.GP1538@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170601072102.GB3506@jagdpanzerIV.localdomain>

On Thu 2017-06-01 16:21:02, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (05/31/17 16:30), Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> > On (05/29/17 14:12), Jan Kara wrote:
> > [..]
> > > Actually I had something very similar in old versions of my patch set. And
> > > it didn't work very well. The problem was that e.g. sometimes scheduler
> > > decided that printk kthread should run on the same CPU as the process
> > > currently doing printing and in such case printk kthread never took over
> > > printing and the machine locked up due to heavy printing.
> > 
> > hm, interesting.
> 
> that's a tricky problem to deal with.
> 
> 
> 
> ... so may be we can have per-CPU printk kthreads then
> 
> 	static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct task_struct *, printk_kthread);
> 
> 
> SMP hotplug threads, to be precise, the same way as watchdog has it. and
> then during offloading we can wake_up any printk_kthread that is knowingly
> not from this-CPU, all of them, let them compete for the console_sem.
> 
> just a quick idea.
> 
> thoughts?

I am not sure if this is worth the resources. It think that one
big win of workqueues was that it reduced the amount of running
per-CPU kthreads. There are systems with thousands of CPUs.

I am a bit afraid to use workqueues for flushing consoles.
It would be another dependency and another risk.

Otherwise, per-CPU kthreads/workqueues primary handle per-CPU
resources. But printk_kthread would handle consoles that
need to be serialized anyway. It sounds weird to have
per-CPU task just to increase the chance that it will
get scheduled.

Best Regards,
Petr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-28 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-09  8:28 [RFC][PATCHv3 0/5] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 1/5] printk: move printk_pending out of per-cpu Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-25 12:11   ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-25 12:36     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-25 12:43       ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 2/5] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-10  5:59   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-29  9:29     ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-29 12:12       ` Jan Kara
2017-05-31  7:30         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-31 21:44           ` Andreas Mohr
2017-06-01  7:21           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-01  7:23             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-01  9:20             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-28 13:17             ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2017-06-29  7:40               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-28 12:45           ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-31  7:22       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-28 12:19         ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-29  6:26           ` Andreas Mohr
2017-06-29  7:00             ` Andreas Mohr
2017-06-29  7:33           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-29 11:24             ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-30  7:01             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 10:18               ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-30 11:57                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 12:35                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-06-30 12:50                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 13:16               ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-30 13:38                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-03 11:11                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-02 20:27                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-05 16:36                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-03 19:34                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-04  5:26                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-04  6:53                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 14:10                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 11:54             ` Petr Mladek
2017-06-30 12:42               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 13:33                 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-06-30 14:28                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-30 14:45                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-07-01  1:50                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-07-04 14:03                 ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-05  5:02                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 3/5] printk: add enforce_emergency parameter Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 4/5] printk: enable printk offloading Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-09  8:28 ` [RFC][PATCHv3 5/5] printk: register PM notifier Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-05-30  9:55   ` Petr Mladek
2017-05-31  6:42     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-06-27 14:45       ` Petr Mladek

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