From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752566AbdF2KYp (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Jun 2017 06:24:45 -0400 Received: from mail-wr0-f196.google.com ([209.85.128.196]:36756 "EHLO mail-wr0-f196.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751953AbdF2KYi (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 Jun 2017 06:24:38 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 12:24:35 +0200 From: Pali =?utf-8?B?Um9ow6Fy?= To: Pavel Machek Cc: Bastien Nocera , Dmitry Torokhov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Spurious touchpad events with closed LID Message-ID: <20170629102435.GL25196@pali> References: <201706261854.53970@pali> <20170626170312.GB4965@dtor-ws> <201706262109.42628@pali> <20170628201530.GB18101@amd> <1498689867.6564.6.camel@hadess.net> <20170629073102.GG25196@pali> <20170629100837.GA1709@amd> <20170629101112.GK25196@pali> <20170629101500.GB1709@amd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20170629101500.GB1709@amd> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23.1 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thursday 29 June 2017 12:15:00 Pavel Machek wrote: > On Thu 2017-06-29 12:11:12, Pali Rohár wrote: > > On Thursday 29 June 2017 12:08:37 Pavel Machek wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > On Thu 2017-06-29 09:31:02, Pali Rohár wrote: > > > > On Thursday 29 June 2017 00:44:27 Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2017-06-28 at 22:15 +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While policy normally belongs to userspace, I'd argue this is > > > > > > workaround for a hardware bug, and in-kernel solution would be > > > > > > acceptable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, disable attribute would be nice first step. > > > > > > > > > > It's already fixed for those of us on recent distributions. The > > > > > "ID_INPUT_TOUCHPAD_INTEGRATION=internal" touchpads will be disabled > > > > > when the lid is closed, when libinput is used to process the events. > > > > > > > > But this does not fix other usage of /dev/input/* and also does not fix > > > > pressing spurious keys in linux virtual tty (ctrl+alt+f1). So it is not > > > > a fix. > > > > > > > > Also important question is: How you detect which input device is > > > > "internal", non-removable part of notebook and which one is external? > > > > > > > > You can have external USB touchpad, and also you can have external PS/2 > > > > keyboard connected to docking station (which was e.g. my situation). > > > > > > > > Also there are PS/2 to active USB converters, to make whole situation > > > > complicated. > > > > > > > > And moreover some internal notebook keyboards are connected via USB and > > > > some touchpads via i2c/smbus. > > > > > > > > I think this detection is not easy or at least I have no idea how to do > > > > properly. Existence of PS/2 keyboard does not mean it is internal and > > > > existence of USB keyboard does not mean it is external. > > > > > > > > Maybe ACPI/DSDT provides some information? (No idea, just asking) > > > > > > I'm not sure it is complex. You simply add DMI blacklist of the bad > > > systems, with IDs of bad devices. > > > > My original request is to disable internal keyboard, touchpad and > > trackpoint on notebook when it is docked and LID is closed. > > > > It has nothing to do with DMI blacklist or so. > > Well, you have a buggy notebook. On non-buggy ones, touchpad will not > generate events when closed. > > That's where the DMI blacklist comes to mind. Such blacklist would be huge. Lot of notebooks working in this way. > (Of course, disable attribute would still be nice for other cases.) Yes. -- Pali Rohár pali.rohar@gmail.com