From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755373AbdGCRNo (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jul 2017 13:13:44 -0400 Received: from foss.arm.com ([217.140.101.70]:36910 "EHLO foss.arm.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755330AbdGCRNk (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jul 2017 13:13:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 18:13:38 +0100 From: Will Deacon To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Paul McKenney , Linux Kernel Mailing List , NetFilter , Network Development , Oleg Nesterov , Andrew Morton , Ingo Molnar , Davidlohr Bueso , Manfred Spraul , Tejun Heo , Arnd Bergmann , "linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" , Peter Zijlstra , Alan Stern , Andrea Parri Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 08/26] locking: Remove spin_unlock_wait() generic definitions Message-ID: <20170703171338.GG1573@arm.com> References: <20170629235918.GA6445@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <1498780894-8253-8-git-send-email-paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170630091928.GC9726@arm.com> <20170630123815.GT2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170630131339.GA14118@arm.com> <20170630221840.GI2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20170703131514.GE1573@arm.com> <20170703161851.GY2393@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 09:40:22AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Paul E. McKenney > wrote: > > > > Agreed, and my next step is to look at spin_lock() followed by > > spin_is_locked(), not necessarily the same lock. > > Hmm. Most (all?) "spin_is_locked()" really should be about the same > thread that took the lock (ie it's about asserts and lock debugging). > > The optimistic ABBA avoidance pattern for spinlocks *should* be > > spin_lock(inner) > ... > if (!try_lock(outer)) { > spin_unlock(inner); > .. do them in the right order .. > > so I don't think spin_is_locked() should have any memory barriers. > > In fact, the core function for spin_is_locked() is arguably > arch_spin_value_unlocked() which doesn't even do the access itself. Yeah, but there's some spaced-out stuff going on in kgdb_cpu_enter where it looks to me like raw_spin_is_locked is used for synchronization. My eyes are hurting looking at it, though. Will