On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 01:02:00PM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote: > Guenter Roeck wrote: > > If a test to reproduce a problem exists, it might be more beneficial to suggest > > to the patch submitter that it would be great if that test would be submitted > > as unit test instead of shaming that person for not doing so. Acknowledging and > > praising kselftest submissions might help more than shaming for non-submissions. > > My concern would be that once the shaming starts, it won't stop. > I think this is a communication issue. My word for "shaming" was to > call out a developer for not submitting a test. It wasn't about making > fun of them, or anything like that. I was only making a point > about how to teach people that they need to be more aware of the > testing infrastructure. Not about actually demeaning people. I think before anything like that is viable we need to show a concerted and visible interest in actually running the tests we already have and paying attention to the results - if people can see that they're just checking a checkbox that will often result in low quality tests which can do more harm than good.