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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm/sched: memdelay: memory health interface for systems and workloads
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 10:31:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170731083111.tgjgkwge5dgt5m2e@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170730152813.GA26672@cmpxchg.org>

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:28:13AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:10:55AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:30:10AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > +static void domain_cpu_update(struct memdelay_domain *md, int cpu,
> > > +			      int old, int new)
> > > +{
> > > +	enum memdelay_domain_state state;
> > > +	struct memdelay_domain_cpu *mdc;
> > > +	unsigned long now, delta;
> > > +	unsigned long flags;
> > > +
> > > +	mdc = per_cpu_ptr(md->mdcs, cpu);
> > > +	spin_lock_irqsave(&mdc->lock, flags);
> > 
> > Afaict this is inside scheduler locks, this cannot be a spinlock. Also,
> > do we really want to add more atomics there?
> 
> I think we should be able to get away without an additional lock and
> rely on the rq lock instead. schedule, enqueue, dequeue already hold
> it, memdelay_enter/leave could be added. I need to think about what to
> do with try_to_wake_up in order to get the cpu move accounting inside
> the locked section of ttwu_queue(), but that should be doable too.

So could you start by describing what actual statistics we need? Because
as is the scheduler already does a gazillion stats and why can't re
repurpose some of those?

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] mm/sched: memdelay: memory health interface for systems and workloads
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 10:31:11 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170731083111.tgjgkwge5dgt5m2e@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170730152813.GA26672@cmpxchg.org>

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:28:13AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 11:10:55AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:30:10AM -0400, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > +static void domain_cpu_update(struct memdelay_domain *md, int cpu,
> > > +			      int old, int new)
> > > +{
> > > +	enum memdelay_domain_state state;
> > > +	struct memdelay_domain_cpu *mdc;
> > > +	unsigned long now, delta;
> > > +	unsigned long flags;
> > > +
> > > +	mdc = per_cpu_ptr(md->mdcs, cpu);
> > > +	spin_lock_irqsave(&mdc->lock, flags);
> > 
> > Afaict this is inside scheduler locks, this cannot be a spinlock. Also,
> > do we really want to add more atomics there?
> 
> I think we should be able to get away without an additional lock and
> rely on the rq lock instead. schedule, enqueue, dequeue already hold
> it, memdelay_enter/leave could be added. I need to think about what to
> do with try_to_wake_up in order to get the cpu move accounting inside
> the locked section of ttwu_queue(), but that should be doable too.

So could you start by describing what actual statistics we need? Because
as is the scheduler already does a gazillion stats and why can't re
repurpose some of those?

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-31  8:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-27 15:30 [PATCH 0/3] memdelay: memory health metric for systems and workloads Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30 ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30 ` [PATCH 1/3] sched/loadavg: consolidate LOAD_INT, LOAD_FRAC macros Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: workingset: tell cache transitions from workingset thrashing Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm/sched: memdelay: memory health interface for systems and workloads Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:56   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-27 15:56     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-29  9:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-29  9:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-30 15:28     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-30 15:28       ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-31  8:31       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-07-31  8:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-31 18:41         ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-31 18:41           ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-31 19:49           ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-31 19:49             ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-31 20:38             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-31 20:38               ` Johannes Weiner
2017-08-01  2:23               ` Mike Galbraith
2017-08-01  2:23                 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-08-01  7:57           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01  7:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-01 12:26             ` Johannes Weiner
2017-08-01 12:26               ` Johannes Weiner
2017-08-13 14:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-13 14:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-07-29 13:31   ` kbuild test robot
2017-07-27 20:43 ` [PATCH 0/3] memdelay: memory health metric " Andrew Morton
2017-07-27 20:43   ` Andrew Morton
2017-07-28 19:43   ` Johannes Weiner
2017-07-28 19:43     ` Johannes Weiner
2017-08-02  8:11     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-02  8:11       ` Michal Hocko
2017-07-29  2:48 ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  2:48   ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  3:21   ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  3:21     ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  6:38   ` Mike Galbraith
2017-07-29  6:38     ` Mike Galbraith

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