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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: arnd@arndb.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	fengguang.wu@intel.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/asm] objtool: Handle GCC stack pointer adjustment bug
Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:14:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170830201413.gx4in2wnz5yypzrc@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e6eb6a11-ad65-dccb-2c79-485e58e316a2@zytor.com>

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 12:23:24PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 08/30/17 02:43, tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > 
> > Those warnings are caused by an unusual GCC non-optimization where it
> > uses an intermediate register to adjust the stack pointer.  It does:
> > 
> >   lea    0x8(%rsp), %rcx
> >   ...
> >   mov    %rcx, %rsp
> > 
> > Instead of the obvious:
> > 
> >   add    $0x8, %rsp
> > 
> > It makes no sense to use an intermediate register, so I opened a GCC bug
> > to track it:
> > 
> >   https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=81813
> > 
> > But it's not exactly a high-priority bug and it looks like we'll be
> > stuck with this issue for a while.  So for now we have to track register
> > values when they're loaded with stack pointer offsets.
> > 
> 
> This seems like a good reason to try to extract this information from
> the DWARF data *if available*?

Well, I haven't ruled that out for the future, but in this case,
integrating DWARF would be a lot more work than this relatively simple
patch.

If we did go that route, it could be tricky deciding when to trust
DWARF vs. when to trust objtool's reverse engineering.

Another (vague) idea I'm thinking about is to write a GCC plugin which
annotates the object files in a way that would help objtool become more
GCC-ignorant.  If it worked, this approach would be more powerful and
less error-prone than relying on DWARF.

Depending on how much work we can offload to the plugin, it might also
help make it easier to port objtool to other arches and compilers (e.g.,
clang).

I'm not 100% sold on that idea either, because it still requires objtool
to trust the compiler to some extent.  But I think it would be worth it
because it would make the objtool code simpler, more portable, more
robust, and easier to maintain (so I don't always have to stay on top of
all of GCC's latest optimizations).

In the meantime, objtool's current design is working fine (for now).  I
haven't found any issues it can't handle (yet).

-- 
Josh

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-30 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-29 17:51 [PATCH] objtool: Handle GCC stack pointer adjustment bug Josh Poimboeuf
2017-08-30  9:43 ` [tip:x86/asm] " tip-bot for Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]   ` <e6eb6a11-ad65-dccb-2c79-485e58e316a2@zytor.com>
2017-08-30 20:14     ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2017-08-30 23:39       ` H. Peter Anvin
2017-08-31  4:42         ` Josh Poimboeuf

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