From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wtarreau.pck.nerim.net ([62.212.114.60]:33863 "EHLO 1wt.eu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753394AbdJMO5y (ORCPT ); Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:57:54 -0400 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:57:50 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Anton Altaparmakov Cc: Greg KH , "stable@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: Merging backported fscrypt to 4.4? Message-ID: <20171013145750.GE2447@1wt.eu> References: <010EE55A-A5A5-49F9-AB56-980F3A25111D@tuxera.com> <20171012121139.GA11740@kroah.com> <20171012124933.GA16542@kroah.com> <0C60E331-6397-450B-A6E5-AC42091A1992@tuxera.com> <20171012172656.GA2078@1wt.eu> <785813EC-834E-4566-BE88-1ED966728714@tuxera.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <785813EC-834E-4566-BE88-1ED966728714@tuxera.com> Sender: stable-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Hi Anton, On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 08:57:28AM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: > Hi Willy, > > > On 12 Oct 2017, at 18:26, Willy Tarreau wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 01:26:26PM +0000, Anton Altaparmakov wrote: > >>>>> You should convince your customers to use a more modern kernel :) > >>>> > >>>> In fact one of our customers were moving to a more recent kernel and > >>>> cancelled the move when the announcement about the longer 4.4 kernel > >>>> life time was made!!! > >>> > >>> Um, that's not really very wise. You should council them about that... > > > > In fact given that 4.9 will be maintained for a long time as well, there > > is no really valid excuse for rolling back to 4.4. > > Interesting. https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html still states 4.4 > has projected EOL 2022 whilst 4.9 is 2019 so I can see why companies are > looking and it and jumping onto 4.4... Well, debian 9 settled on 4.9 and will be maintained till 2022 as well : https://wiki.debian.org/LTS Based on the good work done on the previous kernels, we can expect to have a very good kernel till that date as well. Sadly there's less communication about this but you can probably use this to reassure your customers that it's stupid to roll back to 4.4 to reach the same EOL as 4.9 with less features and/or riskier backports. Just my two cents. At least our appliances are now shipping on 4.9 ;-) Willy