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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: NMI watchdog dump does not print on hard lockup
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2017 10:15:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171016101547.27b4aa11@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171016131305.GE6316@tigerII.localdomain>

On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 22:13:05 +0900
Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com> wrote:

> just "brainstorming" it... with some silly ideas.
> 
> pushing the data from NMI panic might look like we are replacing one
> deadlock scenario with another deadlock scenario. some of the console
> drivers are soooo complex internally. so I have been thinking about...
> may be we can extend struct console and add ->write_on_panic() and that
> handler must be as lockless as possible; so lockless that calling it
> from anything that is not panic() is a severe bug.

This may not be a bad idea. And make it so it can't be called unless we
are in panic mode (or at least "oops in progress").

If oops_in_progress is set, and the console has a "write_on_panic"
handler, then just call that.

Heck, if it doesn't have one, and early_printk is defined, then perhaps
that should be the default "write_on_panic" output?

-- Steve


> 
> an absolutely trivial case,
> if serial console does
> 
> 	console_write_cb(struct console *co, const char *s, unsigned int count)
> 	{
> 		spin_lock_irqsave(&port->lock, flags);
> 		uart_console_write(s, count, console_putchar);
> 		spin_unlock_irqrestore(&port->lock, flags);
> 	}
> 
> then panic callback can look like
> 
> 	console_write_on_panic_cb(struct console *co, const char *s, unsigned int count)
> 	{
> 		/* no, we don't take the port lock here */
> 		uart_console_write(s, count, console_putchar);
> 	}
> 
> a less trivial case might look more involved. but in general that
> write_on_panic() callback must do the absolute minimum of work. so
> it's sort of a early console, but as part of normal console driver.
> 
> I also got some other serial console crazy ideas, but they are not
> related to this topic.
> 
> 	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-16 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-12 16:16 NMI watchdog dump does not print on hard lockup Steven Rostedt
2017-10-12 19:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-13 11:14 ` Petr Mladek
2017-10-13 13:18   ` Steven Rostedt
2017-10-13 19:12     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-16 11:12       ` Petr Mladek
2017-10-16 13:13         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-10-16 14:15           ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2017-10-17  7:50             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-10-23  6:49             ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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