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From: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>, linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/18] xfs: pass an on-disk extent to xfs_bmbt_validate_extent
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2017 15:35:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171102193523.GI16645@bfoster.bfoster> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171102184221.GA4244@lst.de>

On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 07:42:21PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 12:54:19PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > <shrug> Same feeling here.  TBH I wonder about how costly those
> > > unaligned be64 accesses are on things like sparc such that we should
> > > minimize the number of calls and just check the (probably aligned)
> > > incore version instead...
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm not totally sure.. I guess it's potentially a function call where an
> > immediate memory copy would suffice..? Anyways, that's pretty much what
> > caused the function to stand out to me as starting to look a little too
> > busy/ugly for its own good. We now have a validation helper that has to
> > handle unaligned accesses because its caller may or may not refer to
> > unaligned memory. It's not even totally clear to me when we can expect
> > the memory to be unaligned.. when we're referring to an on-disk inode
> > fork?
> 
> We are iterating over each possibly unaligned on-disk extent, so we
> already are taking the hit.  In all modern CPUs unaligned access
> don't cause a function call.  They either require a slightly different
> load instruction or multiple small (e.g. byte) loads.  I'd really like
> to see anyone who can demonstrate a difference vs reading the inode or
> bmap btree from disk.
> 

Ok.

> > So rather than start to propagate that logic, much more clean to me is
> > to do the unaligned accesses only where necessary and fix up the error
> > checks to examine the read values. I don't see any logical difference
> > between checking the bit vs. the extent state since the unwritten bit
> > basically maps directly to XFS_EXT_UNWRITTEN/XFS_EXT_NORM in the incore
> > record.
> 
> With the new incore extent list I wanted to keep the incore extent
> format private to the xfs_iext_tree.c file, and so far succeeded.
> 
> With the final version of this tree I could switch to checking
> the xfs_bmbt_irec structure, which makes a whole lot sense, but I
> can't think of an easy way to stage this.  Let me thing if I can come
> up with something, else I'll leave this patch as-is and will change it
> again in the end.

Right.. checking xfs_bmbt_irec->br_state is precisely what I'm
advocating. If it's easier just to change it after the fact, that's fine
by me.

Brian

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-02 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-31 14:22 b+tree for the incore extent list Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 01/18] xfs: pass an on-disk extent to xfs_bmbt_validate_extent Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 17:53   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 21:15     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-01 13:58       ` Brian Foster
2017-11-01 23:00         ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 11:57           ` Brian Foster
2017-11-02 16:05             ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 16:54               ` Brian Foster
2017-11-02 18:42                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-02 19:35                   ` Brian Foster [this message]
2017-11-02 23:45             ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 02/18] xfs: don't create overlapping extents in xfs_bmap_add_extent_delay_real Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 17:53   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 21:34   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 03/18] xfs: treat idx as a cursor " Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 17:53   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 21:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 04/18] xfs: treat idx as a cursor in xfs_bmap_add_extent_hole_delay Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 17:53   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 21:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 05/18] xfs: treat idx as a cursor in xfs_bmap_add_extent_hole_real Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 17:53   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 21:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 06/18] xfs: treat idx as a cursor in xfs_bmap_add_extent_unwritten_real Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 17:53   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 21:36   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 07/18] xfs: treat idx as a cursor in xfs_bmap_del_extent_* Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 17:53   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 21:37   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 08/18] xfs: treat idx as a cursor in xfs_bmap_collapse_extents Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 17:53   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 21:37   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 09/18] xfs: allow unaligned extent records in xfs_bmbt_disk_set_all Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 21:34   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 13:54   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 10/18] xfs: iterate over extents in xfs_iextents_copy Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 21:41   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 13:54   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 11/18] xfs: iterate over extents in xfs_bmap_extents_to_btree Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 21:41   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 13:54   ` Brian Foster
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 12/18] xfs: introduce the xfs_iext_cursor abstraction Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 22:02   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 18:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-02 19:01       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 19:11         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-02 17:14   ` Brian Foster
2017-11-02 18:51     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-02 19:36       ` Brian Foster
2017-11-03  7:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 13/18] xfs: iterate backwards in xfs_reflink_cancel_cow_blocks Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 22:10   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 14/18] xfs: simplify xfs_reflink_convert_cow Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 22:20   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 18:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 15/18] xfs: remove support for inlining data/extents into the inode fork Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 22:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 18:57     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-02 19:26       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 21:43         ` Dave Chinner
2017-11-02 22:08           ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 16/18] xfs: use a b+tree for the in-core extent list Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-01 18:47   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02  0:16     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02  6:03       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-11-02  0:14   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-02 19:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 17/18] xfs: remove the nr_extents argument to xfs_iext_insert Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 22:35   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-10-31 14:22 ` [PATCH 18/18] xfs: remove the nr_extents argument to xfs_iext_remove Christoph Hellwig
2017-10-31 22:37   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-11-01  3:08 ` b+tree for the incore extent list Darrick J. Wong

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