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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@wdc.com>
Cc: "axboe@kernel.dk" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"osandov@fb.com" <osandov@fb.com>,
	"john.garry@huawei.com" <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	"loberman@redhat.com" <loberman@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SCSI: don't get target/host busy_count in scsi_mq_get_budget()
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 08:50:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171108005022.GC20599@ming.t460p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1510094074.2656.39.camel@wdc.com>

On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 10:34:35PM +0000, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-11-07 at 15:06 -0700, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > Just to keep everyone in the loop, this bug is not new to
> > for-4.15/block, nor is it new to the current 4.41-rc or 4.13. So it's
> > probably different to what Bart is hitting, but it's a bug none the
> > less...
> 
> Hello Jens,
> 
> There are several reasons why I think that patch "blk-mq: don't handle
> TAG_SHARED in restart" really should be reverted:
> * That patch is based on the assumption that only the SCSI driver uses shared
>   tags. That assumption is not correct. null_blk and nvme also use shared tags.

No, both null_blk and nvme should be handled by BLK_MQ_S_TAG_WAITING, not need
to waste CPU to check all shared tags.

> * As my tests have shown, the algorithm for restarting queues based on the

Your test doesn't show it is related with RESTART since there isn't
pending request in output of 'tags'.

>   SCSI starved list is flawed. So using that mechanism instead of the blk-mq
>   shared queue restarting algorithm is wrong.

The algorithm based on starved list has been used for dozens of years
for SCSI, I don't think it is flawed enough.

> * We are close to the merge window. It is too late for trying to fix the
>   "blk-mq: don't handle TAG_SHARED in restart" patch.

If you can provide us the reproduction approach, the time is enough to fix it
before V4.15 release.

> 
> My proposal is to make sure that what will be sent to Linus during the v4.15
> merge window works reliably. That means using the v4.13/v4.14 algorithm for
> queue restarting which is an algorithm that is trusted by the community. If
> Roman Penyaev's patch could get applied that would be even better.

Frankly speaking, the algorithm for blk-mq's restarting won't be used by SCSI at
all because scsi_end_request() restarts the queue before the restart for TAG_SHARED.

For NVMe and null_blk, it is basically same since we cover that via BLK_MQ_S_TAG_WAITING.

So Nak your proposal.

-- 
Ming

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-08  0:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-04  1:55 [PATCH] SCSI: don't get target/host busy_count in scsi_mq_get_budget() Ming Lei
2017-11-04 14:19 ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-06 19:45   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-06 19:45     ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-07  2:11     ` Ming Lei
2017-11-07 16:20       ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-07 16:20         ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-07 16:29         ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-07 17:10           ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-07 17:36             ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-07 22:06               ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-07 22:34                 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-07 22:34                   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-07 22:39                   ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-08  0:50                   ` Ming Lei [this message]
2017-11-08  1:03                 ` Ming Lei
2017-11-08  3:01                   ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-08  3:12                     ` Ming Lei
2017-11-08  3:17                       ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-08  3:17                         ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-08  6:20                         ` Ming Lei
2017-11-08 15:59                           ` Ming Lei
2017-11-08 18:19                             ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-07 17:34           ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-07 17:34             ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-08  0:53             ` Ming Lei
2017-11-08  2:06               ` Ming Lei
2017-11-08  0:39         ` Ming Lei
2017-11-08  2:55           ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-08  2:58             ` Ming Lei
2017-11-08  3:06               ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-08 16:41                 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-08 16:41                   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-08 17:57                   ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-08 18:22                     ` Laurence Oberman
2017-11-08 18:22                       ` Laurence Oberman
2017-11-08 18:28                       ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-09  4:02                     ` Ming Lei
2017-11-09  2:05                   ` Ming Lei
2017-11-07 10:15     ` Ming Lei
2017-11-07 16:17       ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-07 16:17         ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-08  3:12         ` Jens Axboe
2017-11-06 18:04 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-06 18:04   ` Bart Van Assche
2017-11-07  2:19   ` Ming Lei
2017-11-07  3:53     ` Martin K. Petersen
2017-11-07  3:53       ` Martin K. Petersen

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