From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753690AbdKIIxb (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Nov 2017 03:53:31 -0500 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([65.50.211.133]:36444 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753653AbdKIIx3 (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Nov 2017 03:53:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2017 00:53:24 -0800 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Christoph Hellwig , Philippe Ombredanne , "Theodore Ts'o" , Alan Cox , "Darrick J. Wong" , Eric Sandeen , xfs , LKML , Kate Stewart , Thomas Gleixner Subject: Re: WTF? Re: [PATCH] License cleanup: add SPDX GPL-2.0 license identifier to files with no license Message-ID: <20171109085324.GA4909@infradead.org> References: <20171107072040.GB4586@infradead.org> <20171107073940.GB4654@kroah.com> <20171107172042.GB26910@magnolia> <20171107182903.GA4588@kroah.com> <20171107184658.56b87d41@alans-desktop> <20171107191526.x3rzfcnnlmaz264d@thunk.org> <20171107192846.GA24617@infradead.org> <20171108151121.GC10374@infradead.org> <20171109082335.GD27461@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20171109082335.GD27461@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.8.3 (2017-05-23) X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 09:23:35AM +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > The documentation of this process is lagging the patches, as usually > happens, sorry about that. In cases like this the documentation is the most important part. Without documentation it is completely pointless. > > Thomas is working on a document to describe the process, and what a file > should contain, based on the work he has been doing. This was discussed > at the kernel summit, and sorry for it not getting out wider than that > audience, things take time, which is why I was only touching my > subsystems with the "general license cleanups" at the moment until his > document was ready. > > Hopefully a draft of it will go out today, Thomas? It would help to Cc him, I've done that. > SPDX is an industry-wide accepted set of tags for all licenses, some > projects have been using it for years (like Uboot). These are not going > to change randomly, and again, the document that Thomas has will > describe these in detail. It is not an 'industry-wide accepted set of tags' (did you get a company discount on buzzwords). Yes, it it a scheme someone can up with (seems like an industry consortium that happens to employ you, what a coincidence), and from a quick look it even seems like a pretty reasonable scheme. But without backing it with an explanation of those tags in the tree, and explaining people how to use them and how they are relevant it is absolutely useless. And to come up with a scheme we need to have a broad discussion on what we are doing. > sorry for the confusion, it was not intended at all, but it what happens > in time with distributed developers, all working at different rates on > different parts of the tree. Sorry but I call bullshit on this. We have absolutely no problem working together if we try. You clearly did not even try to cooperate with anyone - the clear indicator is that no RFC was posted, no questions were asked but you just sent a pull requests right before the end of the merge window.