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From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 11/11] intel_sgx: driver documentation
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 14:38:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171121123854.rv3uxl7zndh3kr2z@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171120224623.hpx7zcorrwo4ivhh@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 12:46:23AM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:54:12PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 10:49:48PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > > In these cases IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL[17] would be zeroed before locking
> > > the feature control, which would mean that the kernel could not write
> > > new values with wrmsr for the root key hash.
> > 
> > > The question is whether we want to allow this or not. If the answer is
> > > no, a check can be added to the driver initialization code whether 17 is
> > > set, and if not, it driver would fail to initialize.
> > 
> > That has my vote; I would not trust a firmware/BIOS key.
> 
> Please note that it does not have a key to look inside the enclave. The
> enclave is protected by two means:
> 
> 1. The CPU asserts the memory accesses to it.
> 2. The CPU encrypts/decrypts in L1 in order to protect from physical
>    attacks and peripherals that have potential spy the bus.

The encryption key is generated for every boot cycle and it is *never*
leaked out of the CPU package.

After thinking what you and Borislav said I position myself to the point
of view that even if the MSRs would be read-only the kernel could allow
running enclaves *with a condition*.

I propose adding an additional check to the driver initialization:

  Try to start LE. If it doesn't start i.e. is signed with a different
  root key than the one inside MSRs, then fail the initialization.

/Jarkko

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-21 12:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-13 19:45 [PATCH v5 00/11] Intel SGX Driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 01/11] intel_sgx: updated MAINTAINERS Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-17 21:54   ` Darren Hart
2017-11-24 19:18     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 02/11] x86: add SGX definition to cpufeature Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 03/11] x86: define the feature control MSR's SGX enable bit Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-17 21:48   ` Darren Hart
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 04/11] x86: define the feature control MSR's SGX launch control bit Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 05/11] x86: add SGX MSRs to msr-index.h Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 06/11] intel_sgx: driver for Intel Software Guard Extensions Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 23:41   ` James Morris
2017-11-14 20:12     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-15 10:04       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-14 17:55   ` [intel-sgx-kernel-dev] " Sean Christopherson
2017-11-14 20:28     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-15 18:20       ` Sean Christopherson
2017-12-13 23:18         ` Christopherson, Sean J
2017-12-13 23:18           ` Christopherson, Sean J
2017-12-15 15:00           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-15 15:00             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-19 18:52             ` Christopherson, Sean J
2017-12-19 18:52               ` Christopherson, Sean J
2017-12-19 23:11               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-19 23:11                 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-19 23:24                 ` Christopherson, Sean J
2017-12-19 23:24                   ` Christopherson, Sean J
2017-12-20 10:13                   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-12-20 10:13                     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 07/11] intel_sgx: ptrace() support Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-16  9:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-23 10:25     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 08/11] intel_sgx: in-kernel launch enclave Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-14 17:05   ` [intel-sgx-kernel-dev] " Sean Christopherson
2017-11-14 20:05     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-20 22:21       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-15 11:50   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-20 22:25     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-20 22:43       ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-20 23:43         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-20 23:48           ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-21 12:23             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-21 23:36               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 09/11] fs/pipe.c: export create_pipe_files() and replace_fd() Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-16  9:15   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-20 22:30     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 10/11] intel_sgx: glue code for in-kernel LE Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-14 18:16   ` [intel-sgx-kernel-dev] " Sean Christopherson
2017-11-14 20:31     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-15 10:10       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-17 23:07   ` Darren Hart
2017-11-25 12:52     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-25 18:01     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-13 19:45 ` [PATCH v5 11/11] intel_sgx: driver documentation Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-14  3:01   ` [intel-sgx-kernel-dev] " Kai Huang
2017-11-14 19:47     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-14 21:12       ` Kai Huang
2017-11-14  8:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-14 20:49     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-14 21:53       ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-20 22:37         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-20 22:42           ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-20 23:41             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-21 11:10               ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-15 11:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-20 22:46         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-21 12:38           ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2017-11-21 12:47             ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-21 23:45               ` Jethro Beekman
2017-11-22  0:10                 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-22  0:27                   ` Jethro Beekman
2017-11-22 11:00                     ` Borislav Petkov
2017-11-22 16:07                       ` Jethro Beekman
2017-11-17 21:43   ` Darren Hart
2017-11-17 23:34     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-17 23:46       ` Darren Hart
2017-11-20 23:12         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-20 23:08       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-27 17:03         ` Sean Christopherson
2017-11-27 19:41           ` Sean Christopherson
2017-11-28 20:37           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-28 20:46             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-24 17:26     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2017-11-15 10:35 ` [PATCH v5 00/11] Intel SGX Driver Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-20 22:20   ` Jarkko Sakkinen

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