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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCHv6 00/12] printk: introduce printing kernel thread
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:36:58 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171219043658.GD17164@jagdpanzerIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171218124613.1df152da@gandalf.local.home>

On (12/18/17 12:46), Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > One question is if we really want to rely on offloading in
> > this case. What if this is printed to debug some stalled
> > system.
> 
> Correct, and this is what I call when debugging hard lockups, and I do
> it from NMI.
[..]
> show_state_filter() is not a normal printk() call. It is used for
> debugging.

just for the record. a side note.

you guys somehow made spectacularly off-target conclusions from the
traces I have provided and decided NOT to concentrate on demonstrated
behavioural patterns, but on, perhaps, process' names (I really should
have renamed i_do_printks to DONALD_TRUMP ;) ) and on how those printk
lines got into the logbuf. like if it mattered. [seriously, why?]. the
point was not in show_state_filter()... the point was - preemption and
things that hand off does. but somehow filling up logbuf when console_sem
owner is preempted is unrealistic if printks are coming from task A
under normal conditions; and it is a completely different story when
the same task A fills up logbuf from OOM while console_sem owner is
preempted. the end result is the same in both cases: it's not task A
that is going to flush logbuf. it's some other task that will have to
do it, possibly being in atomic context. anyway, anyway.

	-ss

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-12-19  4:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-04 13:48 [RFC][PATCHv6 00/12] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 01/12] printk: move printk_pending out of per-cpu Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 02/12] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 03/12] printk: consider watchdogs thresholds for offloading Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 04/12] printk: add sync printk_emergency API Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 05/12] printk: enable printk offloading Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 06/12] PM: switch between printk emergency modes Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 07/12] printk: register syscore notifier Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 08/12] printk: force printk_kthread to offload printing Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 09/12] printk: do not cond_resched() when we can offload Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 10/12] printk: move offloading logic to per-cpu Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 11/12] printk: add offloading watchdog API Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:48 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 12/12] printk: improve printk offloading mechanism Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:53 ` [PATCH 0/4] printk: offloading testing module/trace events Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:53   ` [PATCH 1/4] printk/lib: add offloading trace events and test_printk module Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:53   ` [PATCH 2/4] printk/lib: simulate slow consoles Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:53   ` [PATCH 3/4] printk: add offloading takeover traces Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-04 13:53   ` [PATCH 4/4] printk: add task name and CPU to console messages Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-14 14:27 ` [RFC][PATCHv6 00/12] printk: introduce printing kernel thread Petr Mladek
2017-12-14 14:39   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-15 15:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-14 15:25   ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-14 17:55     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-14 18:11       ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-14 18:21         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-22  0:09           ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-22  4:19             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-28  6:48               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-28 10:07                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-29 13:59                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-12-31  1:44                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-01-09 20:06               ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-09 22:08                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-09 22:17                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-11 11:14                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-09 22:08                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-01-09 22:17                   ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-09 22:47                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-01-09 22:53                       ` Tejun Heo
2018-01-10  7:18                         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-01-10 14:04                           ` Tejun Heo
2017-12-15  2:10         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-15  3:18           ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-15  5:06             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-15  6:52               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-15 15:39                 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-15  8:31               ` Petr Mladek
2017-12-15  8:42                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-15  9:08                   ` Petr Mladek
2017-12-15 15:47                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-18  9:36                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-18 10:36                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-18 12:35                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-18 13:51                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-12-18 13:31                       ` Petr Mladek
2017-12-18 13:39                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-18 14:13                           ` Petr Mladek
2017-12-18 17:46                             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-19  1:03                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-19  1:08                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-19  1:24                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-19  2:03                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-19  2:46                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-19  3:38                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-19  4:58                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-19 14:40                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-20  7:46                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-19 14:31                                     ` Michal Hocko
2017-12-20  7:10                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-20 12:06                                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2017-12-21  6:52                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-19  4:36                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2017-12-18 14:10                         ` Petr Mladek
2017-12-19  1:09                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-15 15:42                 ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-15 15:19               ` Steven Rostedt
2017-12-19  0:52                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2017-12-19  1:03                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-01-05  2:54 ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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