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From: Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@arm.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, morten.rasmussen@arm.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, tkjos@android.com, joelaf@google.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] sched: cpufreq: Keep track of cpufreq utilization update flags
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 15:01:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171220150116.GL19821@e110439-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2145782.LdFHderQvS@aspire.rjw.lan>

On 20-Dec 15:52, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 20, 2017 3:31:00 PM CET Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > On 20-Dec 14:28, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 12:55:46PM +0000, Patrick Bellasi wrote:
> > > > On 20-Dec 09:31, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > Didn't juri have patches to make DL do something sane? But yes, I think
> > > > > those flags are part of the problem.
> > > > 
> > > > He recently reposted them here:
> > > > 
> > > >   https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20171204102325.5110-1-juri.lelli@redhat.com
> > > 
> > > Yeah, just found them and actually munged them into my queue; did all
> > > the modifications you suggested too. Lets see if it comes apart.
> > > 
> > > > > > - From the utilization handler, we check runqueues of all three sched
> > > > > >   classes to see if they have some work pending (this can be done
> > > > > >   smartly by checking only RT first and skipping other checks if RT
> > > > > >   has some work).
> > > > > 
> > > > > No that's wrong. DL should provide a minimum required based on existing
> > > > > reservations, we can add the expected CFS average on top and request
> > > > > that.
> > > > > 
> > > > > And for RT all we need to know is if current is of that class, otherwise
> > > > > we don't care.
> > > > 
> > > > So, this:
> > > > 
> > > >    https://marc.info/?i=20171130114723.29210-3-patrick.bellasi%40arm.com
> > > 
> > > Right, I was actually looking for those patches, but I'm searching
> > > backwards and hit upon Juri's patches first.
> > > 
> > > > was actually going in this direction, although still working on top of
> > > > flags to not change the existing interface too much.
> > > > 
> > > > IMO, the advantage of flags is that they are a sort-of "pro-active"
> > > > approach, where the scheduler notify sensible events to schedutil.
> > > > But keep adding flags seems to overkilling to me too.
> > > > 
> > > > If we remove flags then we have to query the scheduler classes "on
> > > > demand"... but, as Peter suggests, once we have DL bits Juri posted,
> > > > the only issue if to know if an RT task is running.
> > > > This the patch above can be just good enough, with no flags at all and
> > > > with just a check for current being RT (or DL for the time being).
> > > 
> > > Well, we still need flags for crap like IO-WAIT IIRC. That's sugov
> > > internal state and not something the scheduler actually already knows.
> > 
> > Right, that flag is set from:
> > 
> >     core.c::io_schedule_prepare()
> > 
> > for the current task, which is going to be dequeued soon.
> > 
> > Once it wakes up the next time, at enqueue time we trigger a boosting
> > by passing schedutil that flag.
> > 
> > Thus, unless we are happy to delay the boosting until the task is
> > actually picked for execution (don't think so), then we need to keep
> > the flag and signal schedutil at enqueue time.
> > 
> > However, was wondering one thing: should't we already have a vruntime
> > bonus for IO sleeping tasks? Because in that case, the task is likely
> > to be on CPU quite soon... and thus, perhaps by removing the flag and
> > moving the schedutil notification into core.c at the end of
> > __schedule() should be working to detect both RT and FAIR::IOWAIT
> > boosted tasks.
> 
> schedutil is not the only user of this flag.

Sure, but with the idea above (not completely sure it makes sense)
intel_pstate_update_util() can still get the IIOWAIT information.

We just get that info from current->in_iowait instead of checking a
flag which is passed in via callback.

> Thanks,
> Rafael
> 

-- 
#include <best/regards.h>

Patrick Bellasi

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-20 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-13  9:53 [PATCH 0/4] sched: cpufreq: Track util update flags Viresh Kumar
2017-12-13  9:53 ` [PATCH 1/4] cpufreq: schedutil: Initialize sg_cpu->flags to 0 Viresh Kumar
2017-12-13 11:13   ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-13 11:22     ` Viresh Kumar
2018-01-10 12:15   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/cpufreq: " tip-bot for Viresh Kumar
2017-12-13  9:53 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched: cpufreq: Keep track of cpufreq utilization update flags Viresh Kumar
2017-12-13 11:26   ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-13 11:29     ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-16 16:40   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-16 16:47     ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-17  0:19       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-18  4:59         ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-18 11:35           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-18 11:59             ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-18 12:14               ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-19  3:12                 ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-19  3:18                   ` Joel Fernandes
2017-12-19  3:22                     ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-19  3:26                       ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-19  3:30                         ` Joel Fernandes
2017-12-19  3:41                           ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-19 10:44                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-18 17:34               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-19 19:25   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20  4:04     ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-20  8:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20  8:48         ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-20  9:17           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 12:55         ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-20 13:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 14:31             ` Patrick Bellasi
2017-12-20 14:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-20 15:01                 ` Patrick Bellasi [this message]
2017-12-20 14:47             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2017-12-20 14:51               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-20 17:27               ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-20 18:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-12-13  9:53 ` [PATCH 3/4] cpufreq: schedutil: Don't pass flags to sugov_set_iowait_boost() Viresh Kumar
2017-12-13 11:28   ` Juri Lelli
2018-01-10 12:15   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/cpufreq: " tip-bot for Viresh Kumar
2017-12-13  9:53 ` [PATCH 4/4] cpufreq: schedutil: Don't call sugov_get_util() unnecessarily Viresh Kumar
2017-12-13 11:34   ` Juri Lelli
2017-12-13 12:02     ` Viresh Kumar
2017-12-19  3:26   ` Joel Fernandes

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