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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: edumazet@google.com
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, efault@gmx.de,
	peterz@infradead.org, dima@arista.com, frederic@kernel.org,
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	alexander.levin@verizon.com, pabeni@redhat.com,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, rrendec@arista.com, riel@redhat.com,
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Subject: Re: [RFC 1/2] softirq: Defer net rx/tx processing to ksoftirqd context
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:24:47 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180117.172447.1568697383040902713.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89iJmA-21uL+pPBiV6zsrR7nY6RJ6bamDCgPctMoNWpa4Hw@mail.gmail.com>

From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:02:43 -0800

> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2018, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>>> > raise_softirq() -> raise_softirq_irqoff()
>>> >
>>> >         set_softirq_bit();
>>> >
>>> >         if (!in_interrupt())
>>> >                 wake_softirqd();
>>> >
>>> > So if the caller is not in hard or soft interrupt context, which includes
>>> > bottom half disabled regions softirqd is woken.
>>>
>>> That does seem unnecessarily expensive, and maybe we could just do it
>>> with thread flag (TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME or whatever).
>>>
>>> In fact, that was what I *thought* we did. Maybe I just remember some
>>> historical behavior.
>>>
>>> Since networking seems to largely prefer softirqd anyway, maybe that
>>> wake_softirqd() is the right thing to do anyway.
>>
>> Well, but we only do it when we are not in a bh disabled region. The places
>> where thread context raises the network softirqs is usually inside a bh
>> disabled region, so the softirq is executed on local_bh_enable(). The
>> thread is woken up rarely.
> 
> There is also the netif_rx_ni() stuff.
> 
> Can't remember right now why it is not using
> local_bh_{diable,enable}() pair instead
> of preempt_disable() ... if (local_softirq_pending()) do_softirq();

Hmmm, that code predates the initial GIT repository build.

I do remember we had some back and forth with that stuff.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-17 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-09 13:36 [RFC 0/2] Net softirq deferring to ksoftirqd Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-09 13:36 ` [RFC 1/2] softirq: Defer net rx/tx processing to ksoftirqd context Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-09 16:03   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-10 21:20     ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-09 18:02   ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-10 21:48     ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-11  2:13       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11  3:22         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-11  4:19           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11  4:44             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-11 14:31               ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-11 16:20                 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 16:32                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-11 16:38                     ` David Miller
2018-01-11 16:43                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-11 18:48                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 19:15                       ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 19:43                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 19:48                           ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 20:03                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 20:16                               ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 20:22                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 20:34                                   ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-11 20:37                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 20:40                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-11 20:46                                       ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-11 20:53                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-11 21:13                                           ` Dmitry Safonov
2018-01-12  5:41                                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-12  5:23                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 10:13                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-12 17:26                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-12 17:44                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 17:51                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-12 18:15                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 18:44                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-17 20:30                                                 ` David Miller
2018-01-17 21:06                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-17 21:49                                                     ` David Miller
2018-01-17 21:54                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-17 21:58                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-17 22:00                                                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-17 22:02                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-17 22:24                                                               ` David Miller [this message]
2018-01-17 22:54                                                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-02-06 16:56                                                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-02-13 16:36                                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-17 21:54                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-17 21:58                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-12 19:28                                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-12 19:53                                               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-12 14:58                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-12 15:15                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 17:00                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-01-12 18:08                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2018-01-12 17:24                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 13:36 ` [RFC 2/2] softirq: Introduce mask for __do_softirq() Dmitry Safonov

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