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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	mm-commits@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org, sfr@canb.auug.org.au,
	broonie@kernel.org
Subject: Re: ppc elf_map breakage with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:42:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180130094205.GS21609@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k1w081e7.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au>

On Tue 30-01-18 14:35:12, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > On Mon 29-01-18 11:02:09, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> On 01/29/2018 08:17 AM, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> > On 01/26/2018 07:34 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> >> On Fri 26-01-18 18:04:27, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> >> [...]
> >> >>> I tried to instrument mmap_region() for a single instance of 'sed'
> >> >>> binary and traced all it's VMA creation. But there is no trace when
> >> >>> that 'anon' VMA got created which suddenly shows up during subsequent
> >> >>> elf_map() call eventually failing it. Please note that the following
> >> >>> VMA was never created through call into map_region() in the process
> >> >>> which is strange.
> ...
> >> 
> >> Okay, this colliding VMA seems to be getting loaded from load_elf_binary()
> >> function as well.
> >> 
> >> [    9.422410] vma c000001fceedbc40 start 0000000010030000 end 0000000010040000
> >> next c000001fceedbe80 prev c000001fceedb700 mm c000001fceea8200
> >> prot 8000000000000104 anon_vma           (null) vm_ops           (null)
> >> pgoff 1003 file           (null) private_data           (null)
> >> flags: 0x100073(read|write|mayread|maywrite|mayexec|account)
> >> [    9.422576] CPU: 46 PID: 7457 Comm: sed Not tainted 4.14.0-dirty #158
> >> [    9.422610] Call Trace:
> >> [    9.422623] [c000001fdc4f79b0] [c000000000b17ac0] dump_stack+0xb0/0xf0 (unreliable)
> >> [    9.422670] [c000001fdc4f79f0] [c0000000002dafb8] do_brk_flags+0x2d8/0x440
> >> [    9.422708] [c000001fdc4f7ac0] [c0000000002db3d0] vm_brk_flags+0x80/0x130
> >> [    9.422747] [c000001fdc4f7b20] [c0000000003d23a4] set_brk+0x80/0xdc
> >> [    9.422785] [c000001fdc4f7b60] [c0000000003d1f24] load_elf_binary+0x1304/0x158c
> >> [    9.422830] [c000001fdc4f7c80] [c00000000035d3e0] search_binary_handler+0xd0/0x270
> >> [    9.422881] [c000001fdc4f7d10] [c00000000035f338] do_execveat_common.isra.31+0x658/0x890
> >> [    9.422926] [c000001fdc4f7df0] [c00000000035f980] SyS_execve+0x40/0x50
> >> [    9.423588] [c000001fdc4f7e30] [c00000000000b220] system_call+0x58/0x6c
> >> 
> >> which is getting hit after adding some more debug.
> >
> > Voila! So your binary simply overrides brk by elf segments. That sounds
> > like the exactly the thing that the patch is supposed to protect from.
> > Why this is the case I dunno. It is just clear that either brk or
> > elf base are not put to the proper place. Something to get fixed. You
> > are probably just lucky that brk allocations do not spil over to elf
> > mappings.
> 
> It is something to get fixed, but we can't retrospectively fix the
> existing binaries sitting on peoples' systems.

Yeah. Can we identify those somehow? Are they something people can
easily come across?

> Possibly powerpc arch code is doing something with the mmap layout or
> something else that is confusing the ELF loader, in which case we should
> fix that.

Yes this definitely should be fixed. How can elf loader completely
overlap brk mapping?

> But if not then the only solution is for the ELF loader to be more
> tolerant of this situation.
> 
> So for 4.16 this patch either needs to be dropped, or reworked such that
> powerpc can opt out of it.

Yeah, let's hold on merging this until we understand what the heck is
going on here. If this turnes to be unfixable I will think of a way for
ppc to opt out.

Anshuman, could you try to run
sed 's@^@@' /proc/self/smaps
on a system with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE reverted?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	mm-commits@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-next@vger.kernel.org, sfr@canb.auug.org.au,
	broonie@kernel.org
Subject: Re: ppc elf_map breakage with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:42:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180130094205.GS21609@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k1w081e7.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au>

On Tue 30-01-18 14:35:12, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > On Mon 29-01-18 11:02:09, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> On 01/29/2018 08:17 AM, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> > On 01/26/2018 07:34 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >> >> On Fri 26-01-18 18:04:27, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> >> [...]
> >> >>> I tried to instrument mmap_region() for a single instance of 'sed'
> >> >>> binary and traced all it's VMA creation. But there is no trace when
> >> >>> that 'anon' VMA got created which suddenly shows up during subsequent
> >> >>> elf_map() call eventually failing it. Please note that the following
> >> >>> VMA was never created through call into map_region() in the process
> >> >>> which is strange.
> ...
> >> 
> >> Okay, this colliding VMA seems to be getting loaded from load_elf_binary()
> >> function as well.
> >> 
> >> [    9.422410] vma c000001fceedbc40 start 0000000010030000 end 0000000010040000
> >> next c000001fceedbe80 prev c000001fceedb700 mm c000001fceea8200
> >> prot 8000000000000104 anon_vma           (null) vm_ops           (null)
> >> pgoff 1003 file           (null) private_data           (null)
> >> flags: 0x100073(read|write|mayread|maywrite|mayexec|account)
> >> [    9.422576] CPU: 46 PID: 7457 Comm: sed Not tainted 4.14.0-dirty #158
> >> [    9.422610] Call Trace:
> >> [    9.422623] [c000001fdc4f79b0] [c000000000b17ac0] dump_stack+0xb0/0xf0 (unreliable)
> >> [    9.422670] [c000001fdc4f79f0] [c0000000002dafb8] do_brk_flags+0x2d8/0x440
> >> [    9.422708] [c000001fdc4f7ac0] [c0000000002db3d0] vm_brk_flags+0x80/0x130
> >> [    9.422747] [c000001fdc4f7b20] [c0000000003d23a4] set_brk+0x80/0xdc
> >> [    9.422785] [c000001fdc4f7b60] [c0000000003d1f24] load_elf_binary+0x1304/0x158c
> >> [    9.422830] [c000001fdc4f7c80] [c00000000035d3e0] search_binary_handler+0xd0/0x270
> >> [    9.422881] [c000001fdc4f7d10] [c00000000035f338] do_execveat_common.isra.31+0x658/0x890
> >> [    9.422926] [c000001fdc4f7df0] [c00000000035f980] SyS_execve+0x40/0x50
> >> [    9.423588] [c000001fdc4f7e30] [c00000000000b220] system_call+0x58/0x6c
> >> 
> >> which is getting hit after adding some more debug.
> >
> > Voila! So your binary simply overrides brk by elf segments. That sounds
> > like the exactly the thing that the patch is supposed to protect from.
> > Why this is the case I dunno. It is just clear that either brk or
> > elf base are not put to the proper place. Something to get fixed. You
> > are probably just lucky that brk allocations do not spil over to elf
> > mappings.
> 
> It is something to get fixed, but we can't retrospectively fix the
> existing binaries sitting on peoples' systems.

Yeah. Can we identify those somehow? Are they something people can
easily come across?

> Possibly powerpc arch code is doing something with the mmap layout or
> something else that is confusing the ELF loader, in which case we should
> fix that.

Yes this definitely should be fixed. How can elf loader completely
overlap brk mapping?

> But if not then the only solution is for the ELF loader to be more
> tolerant of this situation.
> 
> So for 4.16 this patch either needs to be dropped, or reworked such that
> powerpc can opt out of it.

Yeah, let's hold on merging this until we understand what the heck is
going on here. If this turnes to be unfixable I will think of a way for
ppc to opt out.

Anshuman, could you try to run
sed 's@^@@' /proc/self/smaps
on a system with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE reverted?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-30  9:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-05  0:20 mmotm 2018-01-04-16-19 uploaded akpm
2018-01-05  0:20 ` akpm
2018-01-05  6:43 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-05  6:43   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-05  8:46   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-05  8:46     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-07  6:49     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-07  6:49       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-07  9:02       ` ppc elf_map breakage with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE (was: Re: mmotm 2018-01-04-16-19 uploaded) Michal Hocko
2018-01-07  9:02         ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-07 11:26         ` Michael Ellerman
2018-01-07 11:26           ` Michael Ellerman
2018-01-08  3:02           ` ppc elf_map breakage with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-08  3:02             ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-08 22:12             ` Michael Ellerman
2018-01-08 22:12               ` Michael Ellerman
2018-01-08 22:12               ` Michael Ellerman
2018-01-09 11:48               ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-09 11:48                 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-09 16:13                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-09 16:13                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-11 10:08                   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-11 10:08                     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-17  8:07                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-17  8:07                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 11:25                       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-23 11:25                         ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-23 12:45                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 12:45                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 15:58                           ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-23 15:58                             ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-23 16:06                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-23 16:06                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24  5:09                               ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-24  5:09                                 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-24  9:05                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-24  9:05                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-26 12:34                                   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-26 12:34                                     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-26 14:04                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-26 14:04                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-29  2:47                                       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-29  2:47                                         ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-29  5:32                                         ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-29  5:32                                           ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-29 13:22                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-29 13:22                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-30  3:35                                             ` Michael Ellerman
2018-01-30  3:35                                               ` Michael Ellerman
2018-01-30  9:42                                               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-01-30  9:42                                                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-31  5:05                                                 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-31  5:05                                                   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-01-31 13:19                                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-31 13:19                                                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-01  3:13                                                     ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-02-01  3:13                                                       ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-02-01 13:10                                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-01 13:10                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-01 13:40                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-01 13:40                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-01 20:55                                                           ` Kees Cook
2018-02-01 20:55                                                             ` Kees Cook
2018-02-13 10:04                                                             ` [RFC PATCH] elf: enforce MAP_FIXED on overlaying elf segments (was: Re: ppc elf_map breakage with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE) Michal Hocko
2018-02-13 10:04                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-13 10:04                                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-14 16:30                                                               ` Khalid Aziz
2018-02-14 16:30                                                                 ` Khalid Aziz
2018-02-01 13:48                                                       ` ppc elf_map breakage with MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE Michal Hocko
2018-02-01 13:48                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-01 21:06                                                         ` Kees Cook
2018-02-01 21:06                                                           ` Kees Cook
2018-02-12 14:48                                                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-12 14:48                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-13  1:02                                                           ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-02-13  1:02                                                             ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-02-13  6:49                                                         ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-02-13  6:49                                                           ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-02-13 10:00                                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-02-13 10:00                                                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-05 12:14   ` mmotm 2018-01-04-16-19 uploaded Michal Hocko
2018-01-05 12:14     ` Michal Hocko

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