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From: Tomasz Pala <gotar@polanet.pl>
To: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: degraded permanent mount option
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:40:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180130154042.GD7126@polanet.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtSx89hjvQ+030KOPx5Xb2bbW8xc8w0zOf=V3A-QXtvMQg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 21:44:23 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:

> Btrfs is orthogonal to systemd's willingness to wait forever while
> making no progress. It doesn't matter what it is, it shouldn't wait
> forever.

It times out after 90 seconds (by default) and then it fails the mount
entirely.

> It occurs to me there are such systemd service units specifically for
> waiting for example
> 
> systemd-networkd-wait-online.service, systemd-networkd-wait-online -
> Wait for network to
>        come online
> 
>  chrony-wait.service - Wait for chrony to synchronize system clock
> 
> NetworkManager has a version of this. I don't see why there can't be a
> wait for Btrfs to normally mount,

Because mounting degraded btrfs without -o degraded won't WAIT for
anything just immediatelly return failed.

> just simply try to mount, it fails, wait 10, try again, wait 10 try again.

For the last time:

No
	Such
		Logic
			In
				Systemd
						CORE

Every wait/repeat is done using UNITS - as you already noticed
itself. And these are plain, regular UNITS.

Is there anything that prevents YOU, Chris, from writing these UNITS for
btrfs?

I know what makes ME stop writing these units - it's lack of feedback
from btrfs.ko ioctl handler. Without this I am unable to write UNITS
handling fstab mount entries, because the logic would PROBABLY have to
be hardcoded inside systemd-fstab-generator.

And such logic MUST NOT be hardcoded - this MUST be user-configurable,
i.e. made on UNITS level.

You might argue that some-distros-SysV units or some Gentoo-OpenRC have
support for this and if you want to change anything this is only a few
lines of shell code to be altered. But systemd-fstab-generator is
compiled binary and so WON'T allow the behaviour to be user-configurable.

> And then fail the unit so we end up at a prompt.

This can also be easily done, just like emergency-shell spawns
when configured. If only btrfs could accept and keep information about
volume being allowed for degraded mount.


OK, to be honest I _can_ write such rules now, keeping the
'allow-degraded' state somewhere else (in a file for example).

But since this is some non-standarized side-channel, such code won't
be accepted in systemd upstream, especially because it requires the
current udev rule to be slightly changed.

-- 
Tomasz Pala <gotar@pld-linux.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-30 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-26 14:02 degraded permanent mount option Christophe Yayon
2018-01-26 14:18 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-26 14:47   ` Christophe Yayon
2018-01-26 14:55     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-27  5:50     ` Andrei Borzenkov
     [not found]       ` <1517035210.1252874.1249880112.19FABD13@webmail.messagingengine.com>
2018-01-27  6:43         ` Andrei Borzenkov
2018-01-27  6:48           ` Christophe Yayon
2018-01-27 10:08             ` Christophe Yayon
2018-01-27 10:26               ` Andrei Borzenkov
2018-01-27 11:06                 ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-27 13:26                   ` Adam Borowski
2018-01-27 14:36                     ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2018-01-27 15:38                       ` Adam Borowski
2018-01-27 15:22                     ` Duncan
2018-01-28  0:39                       ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-28 20:02                         ` Chris Murphy
2018-01-28 22:39                           ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-29  0:00                             ` Chris Murphy
2018-01-29  8:54                               ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-29 11:24                                 ` Adam Borowski
2018-01-29 13:05                                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-30 13:46                                     ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-30 15:05                                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-30 16:07                                         ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-29 17:58                                   ` Andrei Borzenkov
2018-01-29 19:00                                     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-29 21:54                                       ` waxhead
2018-01-30 13:46                                         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-30 19:50                                           ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-30 20:40                                             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-30 15:24                                       ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-30 13:36                                   ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-30  4:44                                 ` Chris Murphy
2018-01-30 15:40                                   ` Tomasz Pala [this message]
2018-01-28  8:06                       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2018-01-28 10:27                         ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-28 15:57                         ` Duncan
2018-01-28 16:51                           ` Andrei Borzenkov
2018-01-28 20:28                         ` Chris Murphy
2018-01-28 23:13                           ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-27 21:12                     ` Chris Murphy
2018-01-28  0:16                       ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-27 22:42                     ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-29 13:42                       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-30 15:09                         ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-30 16:22                           ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-30 16:30                           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2018-01-30 19:24                             ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-30 19:40                             ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-27 20:57                   ` Chris Murphy
2018-01-28  0:00                     ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-28 10:43                       ` Tomasz Pala
2018-01-26 21:54 ` Chris Murphy
2018-01-26 22:03   ` Christophe Yayon

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