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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
Cc: arjan@linux.intel.com, tglx@linutronix.de, karahmed@amazon.de,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, bp@alien8.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, ak@linux.intel.com,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, gregkh@linux-foundation.org,
	mingo@kernel.org, luto@kernel.org, linux@dominikbrodowski.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/speculation: Use Indirect Branch Prediction Barrier in context switch
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:48:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180130174850.bwypk4r5yn2344jb@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1517263487-3708-1-git-send-email-dwmw@amazon.co.uk>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:04:47PM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
> 
> Flush indirect branches when switching into a process that marked itself
> non dumpable. This protects high value processes like gpg better,
> without having too high performance overhead.

I wonder what the point of this patch is.  An audit of my laptop shows
only a single user of PR_SET_DUMPABLE: systemd-coredump.

[ And yes, I have gpg-agent running.  Also, a grep of the gnupg source
doesn't show any evidence of it being used there.  So the gpg thing
seems to be a myth. ]

But also, I much preferred the original version of the patch which only
skipped IBPB when 'prev' could ptrace 'next'.

If performance is a concern, let's look at that in more detail.  But I
don't see how the solution to a performance issue could possibly be
"leave (almost) all tasks vulnerable by default."

If the argument is that everyone should "rebuild the world" with
retpolines, then this patch would still be pointless, as we wouldn't
even need IBPB.

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-30 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-29 22:04 [PATCH] x86/speculation: Use Indirect Branch Prediction Barrier in context switch David Woodhouse
2018-01-30 17:48 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2018-01-30 21:23   ` Tim Chen
2018-01-30 22:00     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-30 22:21       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-30 22:55         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-31  3:59     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-31 23:25       ` Tim Chen
2018-01-30 20:38 ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-30 21:03   ` Tim Chen
2018-01-30 21:57     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-30 22:26       ` Tim Chen
2018-01-30 22:43         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-31  0:25           ` Tim Chen
2018-01-31  0:41             ` Borislav Petkov
2018-01-30 22:39 ` [tip:x86/pti] " tip-bot for Tim Chen
2018-01-31  7:03   ` Dominik Brodowski
2018-01-31 13:24     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-02-01  8:25     ` Christian Brauner
2018-02-01  8:31     ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-01 15:40       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-02-04 19:39       ` Dominik Brodowski
2018-02-05 14:18   ` David Woodhouse
2018-02-05 19:35     ` Tim Chen
2018-02-05 19:35       ` Tim Chen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-01-29 11:33 [PATCH] " David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 12:28 ` Dominik Brodowski
2018-01-29 12:44   ` David Woodhouse
2018-01-29 13:56     ` Dominik Brodowski

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