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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] mm documentation
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 10:00:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180131090037.GQ21609@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180131023838.GA28275@bombadil.infradead.org>

On Tue 30-01-18 18:38:38, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 04:28:50PM +0200, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 02:41:41PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > It is good to hear that at least something has a documentation coverage.
> > > I was asking mostly because I _think_ that the API documentation is far
> > > from the top priority. 
> > 
> > API documentations is important for kernel developers who are not deeply
> > involved with mm. When one develops a device driver, knowing how to
> > allocate and free memory is essential. And, while *malloc are included in
> > kernel-api.rst, CMA and HMM documentation is not visible.
> > 
> > > We are seriously lacking any highlevel one which describes the design and
> > > subsytems interaction.
> > 
> > I should have describe it better, but by "creating a new structure for mm
> > documentation" I've also meant adding high level description.
> 
> We should be really clear what kind of documentation we're trying to create.
> 
> There are four distinct types of documentation which would be useful:
> 
>  - How, when and why to use the various function calls and their
>    parameters from the perspective of a user outside the mm/ hierarchy.
>    Device driver authors, filesystem authors and others of their ilk.
>  - The overall philosophy and structure of the mm directory, what it does,
>    why it does it, perhaps even outlines of abandoned approaches.
>  - What functionality the mm subsystem requires from others.  For example,
>    what does the mm rely on from the CPU architectures (and maybe it would
>    make sense to also include services the mm layer provides to arches in
>    this section, like setting up sparsemem).

yes

>  - How to tweak the various knobs that the mm subsystem provides.
>    Maybe this is all adequately documented elsewhere already.

This would be Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt which is one that is at least
close to be complete.
 
> Perhaps others can think of other types of documentation which would
> be useful.

- design documentation of various parts of the MM - reclaim, memory
  hotplug, memcg, page allocator, memory models, THP, rmap code (you
  name it)

> That shouldn't detract from my main point, which is that
> saying "Now we have mm documentation" is laudable, but not enough.

Absolutely agreed.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-31  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20180130105237.GB7201@rapoport-lnx>
2018-01-30 10:54 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] mm documentation Mike Rapoport
2018-01-30 11:50   ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-30 12:54     ` Mike Rapoport
2018-01-30 13:41       ` Michal Hocko
2018-01-30 14:28         ` Mike Rapoport
2018-01-30 17:32           ` Randy Dunlap
2018-01-31 10:56             ` Mike Rapoport
2018-01-30 17:35           ` James Bottomley
2018-01-31  2:38           ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-01-31  9:00             ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-01-31 14:59               ` Mike Rapoport
2019-01-28  7:04 [LSF/MM TOPIC]: " Mike Rapoport
2019-02-22 13:59 ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-05-20  8:56 [LSF/MM TOPIC] " Mike Rapoport
2021-05-20 14:19 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-21  8:36   ` Mike Rapoport
2021-05-25  7:04     ` Souptick Joarder

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