From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 net-next 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the failover framework Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:56:09 +0300 Message-ID: <20180423205019-mutt-send-email-mst__36726.7568166882$1524506073$gmane$org@kernel.org> References: <1524188524-28411-1-git-send-email-sridhar.samudrala@intel.com> <1524188524-28411-5-git-send-email-sridhar.samudrala@intel.com> <20180420082802.6ca37e4c@xeon-e3> <20180420160058.GB2150@nanopsycho.orion> <20180423100406.71b95f74@xeon-e3> <20180423202204-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20180423104440.2fe6cfd2@xeon-e3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180423104440.2fe6cfd2@xeon-e3> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org Errors-To: virtualization-bounces@lists.linux-foundation.org To: Stephen Hemminger Cc: alexander.h.duyck@intel.com, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, Jiri Pirko , kubakici@wp.pl, Sridhar Samudrala , virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, loseweigh@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net List-Id: virtualization@lists.linuxfoundation.org On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:44:40AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > On Mon, 23 Apr 2018 20:24:56 +0300 > "Michael S. Tsirkin" wrote: > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:04:06AM -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > > > > > > > > >I will NAK patches to change to common code for netvsc especially the > > > > >three device model. MS worked hard with distro vendors to support transparent > > > > >mode, ans we really can't have a new model; or do backport. > > > > > > > > > >Plus, DPDK is now dependent on existing model. > > > > > > > > Sorry, but nobody here cares about dpdk or other similar oddities. > > > > > > The network device model is a userspace API, and DPDK is a userspace application. > > > > It is userspace but are you sure dpdk is actually poking at netdevs? > > AFAIK it's normally banging device registers directly. > > > > > You can't go breaking userspace even if you don't like the application. > > > > Could you please explain how is the proposed patchset breaking > > userspace? Ignoring DPDK for now, I don't think it changes the userspace > > API at all. > > > > The DPDK has a device driver vdev_netvsc which scans the Linux network devices > to look for Linux netvsc device and the paired VF device and setup the > DPDK environment. This setup creates a DPDK failsafe (bondingish) instance > and sets up TAP support over the Linux netvsc device as well as the Mellanox > VF device. > > So it depends on existing 2 device model. You can't go to a 3 device model > or start hiding devices from userspace. Okay so how does the existing patch break that? IIUC does not go to a 3 device model since netvsc calls failover_register directly. > Also, I am working on associating netvsc and VF device based on serial number > rather than MAC address. The serial number is how Windows works now, and it makes > sense for Linux and Windows to use the same mechanism if possible. Maybe we should support same for virtio ... Which serial do you mean? From vpd? I guess you will want to keep supporting MAC for old hypervisors? It all seems like a reasonable thing to support in the generic core. -- MST