From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 531F834 for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 08:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from heliosphere.sirena.org.uk (heliosphere.sirena.org.uk [172.104.155.198]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B63B218A for ; Wed, 9 May 2018 08:14:01 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 9 May 2018 17:13:49 +0900 From: Mark Brown To: Tony Lindgren Message-ID: <20180509081349.GN13402@sirena.org.uk> References: <20180502194632.GB18390@sasha-vm> <20180503020550.GP2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180503031000.GC29205@thunk.org> <0276fcda-0385-8f22-dbdb-e063f7ed8bbe@roeck-us.net> <20180503224217.GR2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180503230905.GA98604@atomide.com> <20180508023439.GA8514@sasha-vm> <20180508034820.GE999@thunk.org> <20180508144958.GU98604@atomide.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GoZzJvFfKjxI3RhA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180508144958.GU98604@atomide.com> Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , Greg KH , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , "w@1wt.eu" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , --GoZzJvFfKjxI3RhA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 07:49:59AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote: > * Theodore Y. 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Ts'o" , Sasha Levin , Greg KH , "w@1wt.eu" , "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] bug-introducing patches Message-ID: <20180509081349.GN13402@sirena.org.uk> References: <20180502194632.GB18390@sasha-vm> <20180503020550.GP2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180503031000.GC29205@thunk.org> <0276fcda-0385-8f22-dbdb-e063f7ed8bbe@roeck-us.net> <20180503224217.GR2714@sirena.org.uk> <20180503230905.GA98604@atomide.com> <20180508023439.GA8514@sasha-vm> <20180508034820.GE999@thunk.org> <20180508144958.GU98604@atomide.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GoZzJvFfKjxI3RhA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180508144958.GU98604@atomide.com> X-Cookie: Advancement in position. User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.5 (2018-04-13) X-getmail-retrieved-from-mailbox: INBOX X-GMAIL-THRID: =?utf-8?q?1599280464106480109?= X-GMAIL-MSGID: =?utf-8?q?1599973506277210031?= X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-ID: --GoZzJvFfKjxI3RhA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 07:49:59AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote: > * Theodore Y. Ts'o [180508 03:50]: > > The people who run Linus's tree and test -rc kernels tend to be kernel > > developers and individual users who want to run bleeding edge kernels > > and who generally are technically clueful. If you were talking about > > SLR cameras, you'd call them the "prosumers" segment of the market. > Yup that's the category. People tinkering with their devices and > using bleeding edge kernels because of some new device driver only > being in thr -rc series for example. 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