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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: procmem <procmem@riseup.net>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	jasowang@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	whonix-devel@whonix.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Virtio-net drivers immune to Nethammer?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 19:54:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180601185429.GB2532@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180601184855-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

* Michael S. Tsirkin (mst@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 01:15:44PM +0000, procmem wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Stefan Hajnoczi:
> > > On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:24:43PM +0000, procmem wrote:
> > >> Hi I'm a privacy distro maintainer investigating the implications of the
> > >> newly published nethammer attack [0] on KVM guests particularly the
> > >> virtio-net drivers. The summary of the paper is that rowhammer can be
> > >> remotely triggered by feeding susceptible* network driver crafted
> > >> traffic. This attack can do all kinds of nasty things such as modifying
> > >> SSL certs on the victim system.
> > >>
> > >> * Susceptible drivers are those relying on Intel CAT, uncached memory or
> > >> the clflush instruction.
> > >>
> > >> My question is, do virtio-net drivers do any of these things?
> > > I have CCed Michael Tsirkin and Jason Wang, the virtio maintainers.
> > > 
> > >> ***
> > >>
> > >> [0] https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.04956
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > 
> > Thanks :) I thought my message was forgotten
> 
> 
> I don't think virtio is using either of these.
> 
> Linux does support CAT AFAIK but it has nothing to do with virtio.

Isn't the idea to misuse CAT to detect something about access patterns;
so it's not about it actually being related?

Dave

> -- 
> MST
> 
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-01 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-21 23:24 [Qemu-devel] Virtio-net drivers immune to Nethammer? procmem
2018-06-01 11:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-06-01 13:15   ` procmem
2018-06-01 15:58     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-01 18:54       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2018-06-02  3:04         ` procmem
2018-06-02  3:08       ` procmem
2018-06-03 16:10         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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