From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753966AbeFDHJd (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Jun 2018 03:09:33 -0400 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([198.137.202.133]:34430 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752352AbeFDHJa (ORCPT ); Mon, 4 Jun 2018 03:09:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 00:09:22 -0700 From: Christoph Hellwig To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Andreas Dilger , Oleg Drokin , Andreas Dilger , James Simmons , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , lustre-devel , fsdevel , LKML , devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov Subject: Re: [PATCH] staging: lustre: delete the filesystem from the tree. Message-ID: <20180604070922.GA13156@infradead.org> References: <20180601091133.GA27521@kroah.com> <6A5E4E02-AE72-4068-BF93-38791BF38B4F@dilger.ca> <20180601190839.GA20734@kroah.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180601190839.GA20734@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.2 (2017-12-15) X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by bombadil.infradead.org. See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 09:08:39PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > Please, compare yourself to orangefs. That is the perfect example of > how to do everything right. They got their code into staging, cleaned > it up, talked to us about what was needed to do to get the remaining > bits in proper shape, they assigned dedicated developers to do that > work, talked with all of us at different conferences around the world to > check up and constantly ensure that they were doing the right thing, and > most importantly, they asked for feedback and acted on it. In the end, > their codebase is much smaller, works better, is in the "real" part of > the kernel, and available to every Linux user out there. FYI, orangefs never went through the statging tree. Which might be one reason why it got merged so quickly - allowing rapid iteration without respect to merged windows, and doing all the trivial cleanups either before or after (but not at the same time as) the feature work really does help productivity. From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christoph Hellwig Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2018 00:09:22 -0700 Subject: [lustre-devel] [PATCH] staging: lustre: delete the filesystem from the tree. In-Reply-To: <20180601190839.GA20734@kroah.com> References: <20180601091133.GA27521@kroah.com> <6A5E4E02-AE72-4068-BF93-38791BF38B4F@dilger.ca> <20180601190839.GA20734@kroah.com> Message-ID: <20180604070922.GA13156@infradead.org> List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Greg Kroah-Hartman Cc: Andreas Dilger , Oleg Drokin , Andreas Dilger , James Simmons , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , lustre-devel , fsdevel , LKML , devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, selinux@tycho.nsa.gov On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 09:08:39PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > Please, compare yourself to orangefs. That is the perfect example of > how to do everything right. They got their code into staging, cleaned > it up, talked to us about what was needed to do to get the remaining > bits in proper shape, they assigned dedicated developers to do that > work, talked with all of us at different conferences around the world to > check up and constantly ensure that they were doing the right thing, and > most importantly, they asked for feedback and acted on it. In the end, > their codebase is much smaller, works better, is in the "real" part of > the kernel, and available to every Linux user out there. FYI, orangefs never went through the statging tree. Which might be one reason why it got merged so quickly - allowing rapid iteration without respect to merged windows, and doing all the trivial cleanups either before or after (but not at the same time as) the feature work really does help productivity.