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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Anna-Maria Gleixner <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Ivan Kokshaysky <ink@jurassic.park.msu.ru>,
	Matt Turner <mattst88@gmail.com>,
	linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0.5/5] alpha: remove custom dec_and_lock() implementation
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2018 13:59:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180606115918.GG12198@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180606111849.4vr2ap2w4mlyqm23@linutronix.de>

On Wed, Jun 06, 2018 at 01:18:50PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:

> - atomic_add_unless() adds more memory barriers compared to the custom
>   assembly

> I can't tell if the different memory barriers
> are an issue but having the same barriers is probably good.

refcount decrement needs to be a RELEASE operation, such that all the
load/stores to the object happen before we decrement the refcount.

Otherwise things like:

	obj-foo = 5;
	refcnt_dec(&obj->ref);

can be re-ordered, which then allows fun scenarios like:

	CPU0				CPU1

	refcnt_dec(&obj->ref);
					if (dec_and_test(&obj->ref))
						free(obj);
	obj->foo = 5; // oops UaF


This means (for alpha) that there should be a memory barrier _before_
the decrement, however the dec_and_lock asm thing only has one _after_,
which, per the above, is too late.

The generic version using add_unless will result in memory barrier
before and after (because that is the rule for atomic ops with a return
value) which is strictly too many barriers for the refcount story, but
who knows what other ordering requirements code has.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-06 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-04 15:45 Introduce atomic_dec_and_lock_irqsave() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-05-04 15:45 ` [PATCH 1/5] spinlock: atomic_dec_and_lock: Add an irqsave variant Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-04 10:25   ` [PATCH 1/5 v2] " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-04 10:25     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-04 10:27     ` [PATCH 1.5/5] alpha: atomic: provide asm for the fastpath for _atomic_dec_and_lock_irqsave Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-04 11:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-04 12:55         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-06 11:18         ` [PATCH 0.5/5] alpha: remove custom dec_and_lock() implementation Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-06 11:21           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-06 11:59           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-06-12 21:36             ` [tip:locking/urgent] alpha: Remove " tip-bot for Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-05-04 15:45 ` [PATCH 2/5] mm/backing-dev: Use irqsave variant of atomic_dec_and_lock() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-05-04 15:45 ` [PATCH 3/5] kernel/user: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-05-04 15:45 ` [PATCH 4/5] drivers/md/raid5: " Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-05-04 15:45 ` [PATCH 5/5] drivers/md/raid5: Do not disable irq on release_inactive_stripe_list() call Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-05-04 15:54 ` Introduce atomic_dec_and_lock_irqsave() Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-04 16:07   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-05-04 16:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-04 16:26       ` Al Viro
2018-05-04 16:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-23 13:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-30  9:26   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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