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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
	quintela@redhat.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	yang.zhang.wz@gmail.com, quan.xu0@gmail.com,
	liliang.opensource@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	nilal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 4/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 10:34:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180608023425.GT750@xz-mi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180608045316-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Fri, Jun 08, 2018 at 04:58:21AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 08, 2018 at 09:37:23AM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > > Asked since I see this in virtio spec (v1.0, though I guess it won't
> > > > change) in chapter "2.2.1 Driver Requirements: Feature Bits":
> > > > 
> > > > "The driver MUST NOT accept a feature which the device did not offer"
> > > > 
> > > > Then I'm curious what would happen if:
> > > > 
> > > > - a emulator (not QEMU) only offered F_FREE_PAGE_HINT, not F_POISON
> > > > - a guest that enabled PAGE_POISON
> > > > 
> > > > Then how the driver could tell the host that PAGE_POISON is enabled
> > > > considering that guest should never set that feature bit if the
> > > > emulation code didn't provide it?
> 
> It wouldn't. It just has to deal with the fact that host can discard
> writes to hinted pages. Right now driver deals with it simply by
> disabling F_FREE_PAGE_HINT.

Ah I see.  Thanks Michael.

Then it seems to me that it's more important to implement the F_POISON
along with where it is declared since otherwise it'll be a real broken
(device declares F_POISON, guest assumes it can handle the POISON so
guest will enable FREE_PAGE_HINT, however the device can't really
handle that).

Or, if the guest driver is capable to drop F_FREE_PAGE_HINT when
F_POISON is not declared, we can safely split the two features into
two patches in QEMU too.

Regards,

-- 
Peter Xu

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-08  2:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-24  6:13 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 1/5] bitmap: bitmap_count_one_with_offset Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 2/5] migration: use bitmap_mutex in migration_bitmap_clear_dirty Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-01  3:37   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 3/5] migration: API to clear bits of guest free pages from the dirty bitmap Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-01  4:00   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2018-06-01  7:36     ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01  7:36       ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-01 10:06       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 12:32         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01 12:32           ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-04  2:49           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-04  7:43             ` Wei Wang
2018-06-04  7:43               ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 4/5] virtio-balloon: VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_FREE_PAGE_HINT Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-05-29 15:24   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-29 15:24     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-30  9:12     ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2018-05-30  9:12       ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-05-30 12:47       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-30 12:47         ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-31  2:27         ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2018-05-31  2:27           ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-05-31 17:42           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-31 17:42             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-01  3:18             ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2018-06-01  3:18               ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-04  8:04         ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2018-06-04  8:04           ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-05  6:58           ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2018-06-05 13:22             ` Wei Wang
2018-06-05 13:22               ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-06  5:42               ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2018-06-06 10:04                 ` Wei Wang
2018-06-06 10:04                   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-06 11:02                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2018-06-07  5:24                     ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07  5:24                       ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-07  6:32                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2018-06-07 11:59                         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07 11:59                           ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-08  2:17                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2018-06-08  7:14                             ` Wei Wang
2018-06-08  7:14                               ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-08  7:31                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2018-06-08  7:31                           ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-06  6:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Xu
2018-06-06 10:11     ` Wei Wang
2018-06-06 10:11       ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-07  3:17       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07  5:29         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07  5:29           ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-07  6:58           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-07 12:01             ` Wei Wang
2018-06-07 12:01               ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-08  1:37               ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08  1:58                 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-08  1:58                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08  1:58                   ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08  2:34                   ` Peter Xu [this message]
2018-06-08  2:49                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08  2:49                       ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08  3:34                       ` Peter Xu
2018-04-24  6:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 5/5] migration: use the free page hint feature from balloon Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:13   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 0/5] virtio-balloon: free page hint reporting support Wei Wang
2018-04-24  6:42   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-05-14  1:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2018-05-14  1:22   ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-05-29 15:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Hailiang Zhang
2018-05-29 15:24   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-29 15:24     ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-01  4:58 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01  5:07   ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01  7:29     ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01  7:29       ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-01 10:02       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 12:31         ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01 12:31           ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-01  7:21   ` Wei Wang
2018-06-01  7:21     ` [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2018-06-01 10:40     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-01 15:33       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-06-05  6:42         ` Peter Xu
2018-06-05 14:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 14:40             ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 14:39         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-05 14:39           ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin

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