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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/14] pc: prepare for multi stage hotplug handlers
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 01:05:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180614005745-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d03c321-4121-a814-ef4f-c649125c0231@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 09:37:54PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>       [ ... specific to machine_foo wiring ...]
> >>>
> >>>       virtio_mem_plug() {
> >>>          [... some machine specific wiring ...]
> >>>
> >>>          bus_hotplug_ctrl = qdev_get_bus_hotplug_handler()
> >>>          bus_hotplug_ctrl->plug(bus_hotplug_ctrl, dev)
> >>>
> >>>          [... some more machine specific wiring ...]
> >>>       }
> >>>
> >>>       [ ... specific to machine_foo wiring ...]
> >>>
> >>> i.e. device itself doesn't participate in attaching to external entities,
> >>> those entities (machine or bus controller virtio device is attached to)
> >>> do wiring on their own within their own domain.
> >>
> >> I am fine with this, but Michael asked if this ("virtio_mem_plug()")
> >> could go via new DeviceClass functions. Michael, would that also work
> >> for your use case?
> > 
> > It's not virtio specifically, I'm interested in how this will work for
> > PCI generally.  Right now we call do_pci_register_device which
> > immediately makes it guest visible.
> 
> So you're telling me that a PCI device exposes itself to the system in
> pci_qdev_realize() instead of letting a hotplug handler handle that? My
> assumption is that the PCI bridge hotplug handler handles this.

Well given how things work in qemu that's not exactly
the case. See below.

> What am
> I missing?
> 
> I can see that e.g. for a virtio device the realize call chain is
> 
> pci_qdev_realize() -> virtio_pci_realize() -> virtio_XXX__pci_realize ->
> virtio_XXX_realize()
> 
> If any realization in pci_qdev_realize() fails, we do a
> do_pci_unregister_device().
> 
> So if it is true what you're saying than we're already exposing
> partially realized (and possibly unrealized again) devices via PCI. I
> *guess* because we're holding the iothread mutex this is okay and
> actually not visible.

For now but we need ability to have separate new commands for
realize and plug, so we will drop the mutex.

> And we only seem to be sending events in the PCI
> bridge hotplug handlers, so my assumption is that this is fine.

For core PCI, it's mostly just this line:

    bus->devices[devfn] = pci_dev;

which makes it accessible to pci config cycles.

But failover also cares about vfio, which seems to set up
e.g. irqfs on realize.




> > 
> > 
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> David / dhildenb
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David / dhildenb

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-13 22:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-17  8:15 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 00/14] MemoryDevice: use multi stage hotplug handlers David Hildenbrand
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 01/14] memory-device: drop assert related to align and start of address space David Hildenbrand
2018-05-29 13:27   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-05-29 16:02     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-30 12:57       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-05-30 14:06         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-31 13:54           ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-04 10:53             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 13:26               ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-07 14:12                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 02/14] memory-device: introduce separate config option David Hildenbrand
2018-05-30 12:58   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 03/14] qdev: let machine hotplug handler to override bus hotplug handler David Hildenbrand
2018-06-05  1:02   ` David Gibson
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 04/14] pc: prepare for multi stage hotplug handlers David Hildenbrand
2018-05-30 13:08   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-05-30 14:13     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-31 14:13       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-04 11:27         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 13:44           ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-07 14:00             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-08 12:24               ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-08 12:32                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-08 12:55                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-08 13:07                     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-08 15:12                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 10:58                         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-13 15:48                           ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-13 15:51                             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-13 18:32                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-06-13 19:37                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-13 22:05                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-06-14  6:14                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-14  9:16                                       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-14  9:20                               ` Igor Mammedov
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 05/14] pc: route all memory devices through the machine hotplug handler David Hildenbrand
2018-05-30 13:12   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-05-30 14:08     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-30 14:27       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-30 14:31         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 06/14] spapr: prepare for multi stage hotplug handlers David Hildenbrand
2018-05-17 12:43   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2018-06-01 10:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Igor Mammedov
2018-06-05  1:08   ` David Gibson
2018-06-05  7:51     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 14:26       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 07/14] spapr: route all memory devices through the machine hotplug handler David Hildenbrand
2018-06-05  1:09   ` David Gibson
2018-06-05  7:51     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 08/14] spapr: handle pc-dimm unplug via hotplug handler chain David Hildenbrand
2018-06-01 10:53   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-05  1:12   ` David Gibson
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 09/14] spapr: handle cpu core " David Hildenbrand
2018-06-01 10:57   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-05  1:13   ` David Gibson
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 10/14] memory-device: new functions to handle plug/unplug David Hildenbrand
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 11/14] pc-dimm: implement new memory device functions David Hildenbrand
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 12/14] memory-device: factor out pre-plug into hotplug handler David Hildenbrand
2018-06-01 11:17   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-04 11:45     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 15:00       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-07 15:10         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 13/14] memory-device: factor out unplug " David Hildenbrand
2018-06-01 11:31   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-04 15:54     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-05-17  8:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4 14/14] memory-device: factor out plug " David Hildenbrand
2018-06-01 11:39   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-04 11:47     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-07 10:44       ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] " David Hildenbrand
2018-05-25 12:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [qemu-s390x] [PATCH v4 00/14] MemoryDevice: use multi stage hotplug handlers David Hildenbrand
2018-05-30 14:03   ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-05-31 11:47     ` Igor Mammedov
2018-05-31 11:50       ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-06-01 12:13   ` Igor Mammedov
2018-06-04 10:03     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-08  9:57     ` David Hildenbrand

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