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From: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] mm: workingset: make shadow_lru_isolate() use locking suffix
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 11:50:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180627085003.rz3dzzggjxps34wb@esperanza> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180626212534.sp4p76gcvldcai57@linutronix.de>

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 11:25:34PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2018-06-24 22:57:53 [+0300], Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 05:12:20PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > shadow_lru_isolate() disables interrupts and acquires a lock. It could
> > > use spin_lock_irq() instead. It also uses local_irq_enable() while it
> > > could use spin_unlock_irq()/xa_unlock_irq().
> > > 
> > > Use proper suffix for lock/unlock in order to enable/disable interrupts
> > > during release/acquire of a lock.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> > 
> > I don't like when a spin lock is locked with local_irq_disabled +
> > spin_lock and unlocked with spin_unlock_irq - it looks asymmetric.
> > IMHO the code is pretty easy to follow as it is - local_irq_disable in
> > scan_shadow_nodes matches local_irq_enable in shadow_lru_isolate.
> 
> it is not asymmetric because a later patch makes it use
> spin_lock_irq(), too. If you use local_irq_disable() and a spin_lock()
> (like you suggest in 3/3 as well) then you separate the locking
> instruction. It works as expected on vanilla but break other locking
> implementations like those on RT.

As I said earlier, I don't like patch 3 either, because I find the
notion of list_lru::lock_irq flag abstruse since it doesn't make all
code paths taking the lock disable irq: list_lru_add/del use spin_lock
no matter whether the flag is set or not. That is, when you initialize a
list_lru and pass lock_irq=true, you'll have to keep in mind that it
only protects list_lru_walk, while list_lru_add/del must be called with
irq disabled by the caller. Disabling irq before list_lru_walk
explicitly looks much more straightforward IMO.

As for RT, it wouldn't need mm/workingset altogether AFAIU. Anyway, it's
rather unusual to care about out-of-the-tree patches when changing the
vanilla kernel code IMO. Using local_irq_disable + spin_lock instead of
spin_lock_irq is a typical pattern, and I don't see how changing this
particular place would help RT.

> Also if the locking changes then the local_irq_disable() part will be
> forgotten like you saw in 1/3 of this series.

If the locking changes, we'll have to revise all list_lru users anyway.
Yeah, we missed it last time, but it didn't break anything, and it was
finally found and fixed (by you, thanks BTW).

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-27  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-22 15:12 [PATCH 0/3] mm: use irq locking suffix instead local_irq_disable() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-22 15:12 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: workingset: remove local_irq_disable() from count_shadow_nodes() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-24 19:51   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-06-25 10:36   ` Kirill Tkhai
2018-06-22 15:12 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: workingset: make shadow_lru_isolate() use locking suffix Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-24 19:57   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-06-26 21:25     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-27  8:50       ` Vladimir Davydov [this message]
2018-06-27  9:20         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-28  9:30           ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-07-02 22:38             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-22 15:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: list_lru: Add lock_irq member to __list_lru_init() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-06-24 20:09   ` Vladimir Davydov
2018-07-03 14:52     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-07-03 14:52       ` [PATCH 1/4] mm/list_lru: use list_lru_walk_one() in list_lru_walk_node() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-07-03 14:52       ` [PATCH 2/4] mm/list_lru: Move locking from __list_lru_walk_one() to its caller Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-07-03 14:52       ` [PATCH 3/4] mm/list_lru: Pass struct list_lru_node as an argument __list_lru_walk_one() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-07-03 14:52       ` [PATCH 4/4] mm/list_lru: Introduce list_lru_shrink_walk_irq() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-07-03 21:14       ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-03 21:44         ` Re: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-07-04 14:44           ` Re: Vladimir Davydov
2018-06-22 21:39 ` [PATCH 0/3] mm: use irq locking suffix instead local_irq_disable() Andrew Morton
2018-06-24 20:10   ` Vladimir Davydov

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