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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Julia Cartwright <julia@ni.com>,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Glexiner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 5/7] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 01:38:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180712083805.GA67912@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180711091944.4d8e78ef@gandalf.local.home>

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 09:19:44AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > protection to prevent something like the following case: a spin_lock is
> > > taken. Then lockdep_acquired is called.  That does a raw_local_irq_save
> > > and then sets lockdep_recursion, and then calls __lockdep_acquired. In
> > > this function, a call to get_lock_stats happens which calls
> > > preempt_disable, which calls trace IRQS off somewhere which enters my
> > > tracepoint code and sets the tracing_irq_cpu flag to prevent recursion.
> > > This flag is then never cleared causing lockdep paths to never be
> > > entered and thus causing splats and other bad things.  
> > 
> > Would it not be much easier to avoid that entirely, afaict all
> > get/put_lock_stats() callers already have IRQs disabled, so that
> > (traced) preempt fiddling is entirely superfluous.
> 
> Agreed. Looks like a good clean up.

So actually with or without the clean up, I don't see any issues with
dropping lockdep_recursing in my tests at the moment. I'm not sure something
else changed between then and now causing the issue to go away. I can include
Peter's clean up in my series though if he's Ok with it since you guys agree
its a good clean up anyway. Would you prefer I did that, and then also
dropped the lockdep_recursing checks? Or should I keep the
lockdep_recursing() checks just to be safe? Do you see cases where you want
irqsoff tracing while lockdep_recursing() is true?

thanks,

- Joel


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From: joel at joelfernandes.org (Joel Fernandes)
Subject: [PATCH v9 5/7] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 01:38:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180712083805.GA67912@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180711091944.4d8e78ef@gandalf.local.home>

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 09:19:44AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > protection to prevent something like the following case: a spin_lock is
> > > taken. Then lockdep_acquired is called.  That does a raw_local_irq_save
> > > and then sets lockdep_recursion, and then calls __lockdep_acquired. In
> > > this function, a call to get_lock_stats happens which calls
> > > preempt_disable, which calls trace IRQS off somewhere which enters my
> > > tracepoint code and sets the tracing_irq_cpu flag to prevent recursion.
> > > This flag is then never cleared causing lockdep paths to never be
> > > entered and thus causing splats and other bad things.  
> > 
> > Would it not be much easier to avoid that entirely, afaict all
> > get/put_lock_stats() callers already have IRQs disabled, so that
> > (traced) preempt fiddling is entirely superfluous.
> 
> Agreed. Looks like a good clean up.

So actually with or without the clean up, I don't see any issues with
dropping lockdep_recursing in my tests at the moment. I'm not sure something
else changed between then and now causing the issue to go away. I can include
Peter's clean up in my series though if he's Ok with it since you guys agree
its a good clean up anyway. Would you prefer I did that, and then also
dropped the lockdep_recursing checks? Or should I keep the
lockdep_recursing() checks just to be safe? Do you see cases where you want
irqsoff tracing while lockdep_recursing() is true?

thanks,

- Joel

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From: joel@joelfernandes.org (Joel Fernandes)
Subject: [PATCH v9 5/7] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 01:38:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180712083805.GA67912@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com> (raw)
Message-ID: <20180712083805.2UkxkoyzywP3yByWVNCk3bxC0z-jHsuj8wF8958BB-Y@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180711091944.4d8e78ef@gandalf.local.home>

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018@09:19:44AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> > > protection to prevent something like the following case: a spin_lock is
> > > taken. Then lockdep_acquired is called.  That does a raw_local_irq_save
> > > and then sets lockdep_recursion, and then calls __lockdep_acquired. In
> > > this function, a call to get_lock_stats happens which calls
> > > preempt_disable, which calls trace IRQS off somewhere which enters my
> > > tracepoint code and sets the tracing_irq_cpu flag to prevent recursion.
> > > This flag is then never cleared causing lockdep paths to never be
> > > entered and thus causing splats and other bad things.  
> > 
> > Would it not be much easier to avoid that entirely, afaict all
> > get/put_lock_stats() callers already have IRQs disabled, so that
> > (traced) preempt fiddling is entirely superfluous.
> 
> Agreed. Looks like a good clean up.

So actually with or without the clean up, I don't see any issues with
dropping lockdep_recursing in my tests at the moment. I'm not sure something
else changed between then and now causing the issue to go away. I can include
Peter's clean up in my series though if he's Ok with it since you guys agree
its a good clean up anyway. Would you prefer I did that, and then also
dropped the lockdep_recursing checks? Or should I keep the
lockdep_recursing() checks just to be safe? Do you see cases where you want
irqsoff tracing while lockdep_recursing() is true?

thanks,

- Joel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-12  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 156+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-28 18:21 [PATCH v9 0/7] Centralize and unify usage of preempt/irq tracepoints Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21 ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 1/7] srcu: Add notrace variants of srcu_read_{lock,unlock} Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 2/7] srcu: Add notrace variant of srcu_dereference Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 3/7] trace/irqsoff: Split reset into separate functions Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 4/7] tracepoint: Make rcuidle tracepoint callers use SRCU Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-07-11 12:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:49     ` peterz
2018-07-11 13:00     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:00       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:00       ` rostedt
2018-07-11 14:27       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 14:27         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 14:27         ` paulmck
2018-07-11 14:46         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 14:46           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 14:46           ` rostedt
2018-07-11 15:15           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 15:15             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 15:15             ` paulmck
2018-07-11 20:56             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11 20:56               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11 20:56               ` joel
2018-07-12  1:22               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  1:22                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  1:22                 ` rostedt
2018-07-12  2:35                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  2:35                   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  2:35                   ` joel
2018-07-11 20:52           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11 20:52             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11 20:52             ` joel
2018-07-12  3:21             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  3:21               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  3:21               ` rostedt
2018-07-12  4:28               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  4:28                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  4:28                 ` joel
2018-07-12 13:35                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 13:35                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 13:35                   ` rostedt
2018-07-12 19:17                   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12 19:17                     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12 19:17                     ` joel
2018-07-12 20:15                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 20:15                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 20:15                       ` rostedt
2018-07-12 20:29                       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12 20:29                         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12 20:29                         ` joel
2018-07-12 20:31                         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 20:31                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 20:31                           ` rostedt
2018-07-11 12:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:53     ` peterz
2018-07-12  2:32     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  2:32       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  2:32       ` joel
2018-07-11 12:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 12:56     ` peterz
2018-07-11 13:06     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:06       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:06       ` rostedt
2018-07-11 15:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 15:17         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 15:17         ` peterz
2018-07-11 15:26         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 15:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 15:26           ` rostedt
2018-07-11 16:46           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:46             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:46             ` mathieu.desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:40         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:40           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-07-11 16:40           ` mathieu.desnoyers
2018-07-12  0:31       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  0:31         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  0:31         ` joel
2018-07-12  1:26         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  1:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12  1:26           ` rostedt
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-07-06 22:06   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-06 22:06     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-06 22:06     ` rostedt
2018-07-07  4:20     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-07  4:20       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-07  4:20       ` joel
2018-07-10 14:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-10 14:20     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-10 14:20     ` rostedt
2018-07-10 17:33     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-10 17:33       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-10 17:33       ` joel
2018-07-11 13:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 13:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 13:12     ` peterz
2018-07-11 13:19     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:19       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:19       ` rostedt
2018-07-11 13:22       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:22         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11 13:22         ` rostedt
2018-07-12  8:38       ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2018-07-12  8:38         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  8:38         ` joel
2018-07-12 13:37         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 13:37           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-12 13:37           ` rostedt
2018-07-12  0:44     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  0:44       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-12  0:44       ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 6/7] lib: Add module to simulate atomic sections for testing preemptoff tracers Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-07-11  0:47   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11  0:47     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11  0:47     ` rostedt
2018-07-11  5:26     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11  5:26       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11  5:26       ` joel
2018-06-28 18:21 ` [PATCH v9 7/7] kselftests: Add tests for the preemptoff and irqsoff tracers Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-28 18:21   ` joel
2018-07-11  0:49   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11  0:49     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-11  0:49     ` rostedt
2018-07-11  5:27     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11  5:27       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-11  5:27       ` joel
2018-07-03 14:15 ` [PATCH v9 0/7] Centralize and unify usage of preempt/irq tracepoints Joel Fernandes
2018-07-03 14:15   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-07-03 14:15   ` joel
2018-07-03 14:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-03 14:23     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-03 14:23     ` rostedt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-06-21 22:32 Joel Fernandes
2018-06-21 22:32 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage Joel Fernandes
2018-06-21 22:32   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-21 22:32   ` joel
2018-06-07 20:38 [PATCH v9 0/7] Centralize and unify usage of preempt/irq Joel Fernandes
2018-06-07 20:38 ` [PATCH v9 5/7] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage Joel Fernandes
2018-06-07 20:38   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-07 20:38   ` joelaf

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