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From: Zhenyu Wang <zhenyuw@linux.intel.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: kevin.tian@intel.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	libvirt-list@redhat.com, kwankhede@nvidia.com,
	intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Zhi Wang <zhi.a.wang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [libvirt] [PATCH v2 0/4] New mdev type handling for aggregated resources
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 10:01:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180727020156.GM1267@zhen-hp.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180724114440.76564e75@t450s.home>


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On 2018.07.24 11:44:40 -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 10:19:24 +0800
> Zhenyu Wang <zhenyuw@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> 
> > Current mdev device create interface depends on fixed mdev type, which get uuid
> > from user to create instance of mdev device. If user wants to use customized
> > number of resource for mdev device, then only can create new mdev type for that
> > which may not be flexible. This requirement comes not only from to be able to
> > allocate flexible resources for KVMGT, but also from Intel scalable IO
> > virtualization which would use vfio/mdev to be able to allocate arbitrary
> > resources on mdev instance. More info on [1] [2] [3].
> > 
> > To allow to create user defined resources for mdev, it trys to extend mdev
> > create interface by adding new "instances=xxx" parameter following uuid, for
> > target mdev type if aggregation is supported, it can create new mdev device
> > which contains resources combined by number of instances, e.g
> > 
> >     echo "<uuid>,instances=10" > create
> > 
> > VM manager e.g libvirt can check mdev type with "aggregation" attribute which
> > can support this setting. If no "aggregation" attribute found for mdev type,
> > previous behavior is still kept for one instance allocation. And new sysfs
> > attribute "instances" is created for each mdev device to show allocated number.
> > 
> > This trys to create new KVMGT type with minimal vGPU resources which can be
> > combined with "instances=x" setting to allocate for user wanted resources.
> 
> "instances" makes me think this is arg helps to create multiple mdev
> instances rather than consuming multiple instances for a single mdev.
> You're already exposing the "aggregation" attribute, so doesn't
> "aggregate" perhaps make more sense as the create option?  We're asking
> the driver to aggregate $NUM instances into a single mdev.  The mdev
> attribute should then perhaps also be "aggregated_instances".

yeah that seems better.

> 
> The next user question for the interface might be what aspect of the
> device gets multiplied by this aggregation?  In i915 I see you're
> multiplying the memory sizes by the instance, but clearly the
> resolution doesn't change.  I assume this is sort of like mdev types
> themselves, ie. some degree of what a type means is buried in the
> implementation and some degree of what some number of those types
> aggregated together means is impossible to describe generically.
>

yeah, the purpose was to increase memory resource only, but due to current
free formatted 'description', can't have a meaningful expression for that,
and not sure if libvirt likes to understand vendor specific behavior e.g
for intel vGPU?

> We're also going to need to add aggregation to the checklist for device
> compatibility for migration, for example 1) is it the same mdev_type,
> 1a) are the aggregation counts the same (new), 2) is the host driver
> compatible (TBD).
>

Right, will check with Zhi on that.

> The count handling in create_store(), particularly MDEV_CREATE_OPT_LEN
> looks a little suspicious.  I think we should just be validating that
> the string before the ',' or the entire string if there is no comma is
> UUID length.  Pass only that to uuid_le_to_bin().  We can then strncmp
> as you have for "instances=" (or "aggregate=") but then let's be sure
> to end the string we pass to kstrtouint(), ie. assume there could be
> further args.

Original purpose was to limit the length of string to accept, but can take
this way without issue I think.

> 
> Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-vfio-mdev also needs to be updated
> with this series.

Ok.

Thanks

> 
> I'm curious what libvirt folks and Kirti think of this, it looks like
> it has a nice degree of backwards compatibility, both in the sysfs
> interface and the vendor driver interface.  Thanks,
> 
> Alex

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-27  2:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-20  7:40 [libvirt] [RFC PATCH 0/2] Add new mdev type for aggregated resources Zhenyu Wang
2018-06-20  7:40 ` [libvirt] [RFC PATCH 1/2] vfio/mdev: Add new instances parameters for mdev create Zhenyu Wang
2018-06-20  7:40 ` [libvirt] [RFC PATCH 2/2] drm/i915/gvt: Add new aggregation type Zhenyu Wang
2018-06-21 14:27 ` [libvirt] [RFC PATCH 0/2] Add new mdev type for aggregated resources Kirti Wankhede
2018-06-21 15:00   ` Alex Williamson
2018-06-22  7:42     ` Zhenyu Wang
2018-06-22 13:59       ` Kirti Wankhede
2018-07-20  2:19 ` [libvirt] [PATCH v2 0/4] New mdev type handling " Zhenyu Wang
2018-07-20  2:19   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v2 1/4] vfio/mdev: Add new instances parameter for mdev create Zhenyu Wang
2018-07-26 15:37     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-20  2:19   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v2 2/4] vfio/mdev: Add mdev device instances attribute Zhenyu Wang
2018-07-20  2:19   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v2 3/4] drm/i915/gvt: Add new aggregation type support Zhenyu Wang
2018-07-20  2:19   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v2 4/4] Documentation/vfio-mediated-device.txt: update for aggregation attribute Zhenyu Wang
2018-07-26 15:46     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-27  2:16       ` Zhenyu Wang
2018-07-27  3:30         ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-27 11:49         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-24 17:44   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v2 0/4] New mdev type handling for aggregated resources Alex Williamson
2018-07-26 13:50     ` Erik Skultety
2018-07-26 14:29       ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-26 16:00         ` Erik Skultety
2018-07-26 15:30       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-26 15:43         ` Erik Skultety
2018-07-26 16:04           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-27 14:45             ` Erik Skultety
2018-07-30  2:11               ` Zhenyu Wang
2018-07-26 15:51         ` Alex Williamson
2018-07-26 15:59           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-27  2:01     ` Zhenyu Wang [this message]
2018-10-08  3:19   ` Tian, Kevin
2018-10-08  5:08     ` Zhenyu Wang
2018-10-17  9:00   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v3 0/6] VFIO mdev aggregated resources handling Zhenyu Wang
2018-10-17  9:00   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v3 1/6] vfio/mdev: Add new "aggregate" parameter for mdev create Zhenyu Wang
2018-10-17  9:00   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v3 2/6] vfio/mdev: Add "aggregation" attribute for supported mdev type Zhenyu Wang
2018-10-17  9:00   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v3 3/6] vfio/mdev: Add "aggregated_instances" attribute for supported mdev device Zhenyu Wang
2018-10-17  9:00   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v3 4/6] Documentation/vfio-mediated-device.txt: Update for vfio/mdev aggregation support Zhenyu Wang
2018-10-17  9:00   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v3 5/6] Documentation/ABI/testing/sysfs-bus-vfio-mdev: " Zhenyu Wang
2018-10-17  9:00   ` [libvirt] [PATCH v3 6/6] drm/i915/gvt: Add new type with " Zhenyu Wang

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