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From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH resend] powerpc/64s: fix page table fragment refcount race vs speculative references
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 12:45:36 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180801124536.173bc327@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87600vhbs1.fsf@concordia.ellerman.id.au>

On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 21:42:22 +1000
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> wrote:

> Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> writes:
> > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:38:35 -0700
> > Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:  
> >> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 12:29:06AM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:  
> >> > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 06:41:56 -0700
> >> > Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:  
> >> > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 09:48:17PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:    
> >> > > > The page table fragment allocator uses the main page refcount racily
> >> > > > with respect to speculative references. A customer observed a BUG due
> >> > > > to page table page refcount underflow in the fragment allocator. This
> >> > > > can be caused by the fragment allocator set_page_count stomping on a
> >> > > > speculative reference, and then the speculative failure handler
> >> > > > decrements the new reference, and the underflow eventually pops when
> >> > > > the page tables are freed.      
> >> > > 
> >> > > Oof.  Can't you fix this instead by using page_ref_add() instead of
> >> > > set_page_count()?    
> >> > 
> >> > It's ugly doing it that way. The problem is we have a page table
> >> > destructor and that would be missed if the spec ref was the last
> >> > put. In practice with RCU page table freeing maybe you can say
> >> > there will be no spec ref there (unless something changes), but
> >> > still it just seems much simpler doing this and avoiding any
> >> > complexity or relying on other synchronization.    
> >> 
> >> I don't want to rely on the speculative reference not happening by the
> >> time the page table is torn down; that's way too black-magic for me.
> >> Another possibility would be to use, say, the top 16 bits of the
> >> atomic for your counter and call the dtor once the atomic is below 64k.
> >> I'm also thinking about overhauling the dtor system so it's not tied to
> >> compound pages; anyone with a bit in page_type would be able to use it.
> >> That way you'd always get your dtor called, even if the speculative
> >> reference was the last one.  
> >
> > Yeah we could look at doing either of those if necessary.
> >  
> >> > > > Any objection to the struct page change to grab the arch specific
> >> > > > page table page word for powerpc to use? If not, then this should
> >> > > > go via powerpc tree because it's inconsequential for core mm.      
> >> > > 
> >> > > I want (eventually) to get to the point where every struct page carries
> >> > > a pointer to the struct mm that it belongs to.  It's good for debugging
> >> > > as well as handling memory errors in page tables.    
> >> > 
> >> > That doesn't seem like it should be a problem, there's some spare
> >> > words there for arch independent users.    
> >> 
> >> Could you take one of the spare words instead then?  My intent was to
> >> just take the 'x86 pgds only' comment off that member.  _pt_pad_2 looks
> >> ideal because it'll be initialised to 0 and you'll return it to 0 by
> >> the time you're done.  
> >
> > It doesn't matter for powerpc where the atomic_t goes, so I'm fine with
> > moving it. But could you juggle the fields with your patch instead? I
> > thought it would be nice to using this field that has been already
> > tested on x86 not to overlap with any other data for
> > bug fix that'll have to be widely backported.  
> 
> Can we come to a conclusion on this one?
> 
> As far as backporting goes pt_mm is new in 4.18-rc so the patch will
> need to be manually backported anyway. But I agree with Nick we'd rather
> use a slot that is known to be free for arch use.

Let's go with that for now. I'd really rather not fix this obscure
bug by introducing something even worse. I'll volunteer to change
the powerpc page table cache code if we can't find any more space in
the struct page.

So what does mapping get used for by page table pages? 4c21e2f2441
("[PATCH] mm: split page table lock") adds that page->mapping = NULL
in pte_lock_deinit, but I don't see why because page->mapping is
never used anywhere else by that patch. Maybe a previous version
of that patch used mapping rather than private?

Thanks,
Nick

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-01  2:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-27 11:48 [PATCH resend] powerpc/64s: fix page table fragment refcount race vs speculative references Nicholas Piggin
2018-07-27 13:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-27 14:29   ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-07-27 15:38     ` Matthew Wilcox
2018-07-27 16:32       ` Nicholas Piggin
2018-07-31 11:42         ` Michael Ellerman
2018-08-01  2:45           ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2018-08-08 14:26 ` [resend] " Michael Ellerman
2018-08-08 14:26   ` Michael Ellerman

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