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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Cc: Android Kernel" <kernel-team@android.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Glexiner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 3/3] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 07:49:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180808144922.GN24813@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJWu+oopkDMe9AtuiRqAubuPk_H=NSifTDpWLdgCTEvR6zZiMw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 07:10:53AM -0700, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 6:00 AM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 07, 2018 at 08:53:54PM -0700, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 8:44 PM, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Steve,
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 7:28 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> >>> @@ -171,8 +174,7 @@ extern void syscall_unregfunc(void);
> >> >>>                       } while ((++it_func_ptr)->func);                \
> >> >>>               }                                                       \
> >> >>>                                                                       \
> >> >>> -             if (rcuidle)                                            \
> >> >>> -                     srcu_read_unlock_notrace(&tracepoint_srcu, idx);\
> >> >>> +             srcu_read_unlock_notrace(ss, idx);                      \
> >> >>
> >> >> Hmm, why do we have the two different srcu handles?
> >> >
> >> > Because if the memory operations happening on the normal SRCU handle
> >> > (during srcu_read_lock) is interrupted by NMI, then the other handle
> >> > (devoted to NMI) could be used instead and not bother the interrupted
> >> > handle. Does that makes sense?
> >> >
> >> > When I talked to Paul few months ago about SRCU from NMI context, he
> >> > mentioned the per-cpu memory operations during srcu_read_lock can be
> >> > NMI interrupted, that's why we added that warning.
> >>
> >> So I looked more closely, __srcu_read_lock on 2 different handles may
> >> still be doing a this_cpu_inc on the same location..
> >> (sp->sda->srcu_lock_count). :-(
> >>
> >> Paul any ideas on how to solve this?
> >
> > You lost me on this one.  When you said "2 different handles", I assumed
> > that you meant two different values of "sp", which would have two
> > different addresses for &sp->sda->srcu_lock_count.  What am I missing?
> 
> Thanks a lot for the reply.
> I thought "sda" is the same for different srcu_struct(s). May be it
> was too late for me in the night, that's why I thought so? Which makes
> no sense now that I think of it.

I know that feeling!  ;-)

> In that case based on what you're saying, the patch I sent to using
> different srcu_struct for NMI is still good I guess...

As long as you wait for both SRCU grace periods.  Hmmm...  Maybe that means
that there is still a use for synchronize_rcu_mult():

	void call_srcu_nmi(struct rcu_head *rhp, rcu_callback_t func)
	{
		call_srcu(&trace_srcu_struct_nmi, rhp, func);
	}

	void call_srcu_nonmi(struct rcu_head *rhp, rcu_callback_t func)
	{
		call_srcu(&trace_srcu_struct_nonmi, rhp, func);
	}

	...

	/* Wait concurrently on the two grace periods. */
	synchronize_rcu_mult(call_srcu_nmi, call_srcu_nonmi);

On the other hand, I bet that doing this is just fine in your use case:

	synchronize_srcu(&trace_srcu_struct_nmi);
	synchronize_srcu(&trace_srcu_struct_nonmi);

But please note that synchronize_rcu_mult() is no more in my -rcu tree,
so if you do want it please let me know (and please let me know why it
is important).

> >> It does start to seem like a show stopper :-(
> >
> > I suppose that an srcu_read_lock_nmi() and srcu_read_unlock_nmi() could
> > be added, which would do atomic ops on sp->sda->srcu_lock_count.  Not sure
> > whether this would be fast enough to be useful, but easy to provide:
> >
> > int __srcu_read_lock_nmi(struct srcu_struct *sp)  /* UNTESTED. */
> > {
> >         int idx;
> >
> >         idx = READ_ONCE(sp->srcu_idx) & 0x1;
> >         atomic_inc(&sp->sda->srcu_lock_count[idx]);
> >         smp_mb__after_atomic(); /* B */  /* Avoid leaking critical section. */
> >         return idx;
> > }
> >
> > void __srcu_read_unlock_nmi(struct srcu_struct *sp, int idx)
> > {
> >         smp_mb__before_atomic(); /* C */  /* Avoid leaking critical section. */
> >         atomic_inc(&sp->sda->srcu_unlock_count[idx]);
> > }
> >
> > With appropriate adjustments to also allow Tiny RCU to also work.
> >
> > Note that you have to use _nmi() everywhere, not just in NMI handlers.
> > In fact, the NMI handlers are the one place you -don't- need to use
> > _nmi(), strangely enough.
> >
> > Might be worth a try -- smp_mb__{before,after}_atomic() is a no-op on
> > some architectures, for example.
> 
> Continuing Steve's question on regular interrupts, do we need to use
> this atomic_inc API for regular interrupts as well?

If NMIs use one srcu_struct and non-NMI uses another, the current
srcu_read_lock() and srcu_read_unlock() will work just fine.  If any given
srcu_struct needs both NMI and non-NMI readers, then we really do need
__srcu_read_lock_nmi() and __srcu_read_unlock_nmi() for that srcu_struct.

								Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-08 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-30 22:24 [PATCH v12 0/3] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage Joel Fernandes
2018-07-30 22:24 ` [PATCH v12 1/3] lockdep: use this_cpu_ptr instead of get_cpu_var stats Joel Fernandes
2018-07-30 22:24 ` [PATCH v12 2/3] tracepoint: Make rcuidle tracepoint callers use SRCU Joel Fernandes
2018-07-30 23:10   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-10 15:35   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-10 16:32     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-07-30 22:24 ` [PATCH v12 3/3] tracing: Centralize preemptirq tracepoints and unify their usage Joel Fernandes
2018-08-06 19:50   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07  0:43     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07  1:43       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 13:33         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07 13:49           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 14:10             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07 14:34               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 14:48                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07 15:09                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 15:24                     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-07 23:45                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-07 23:54                         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  0:48                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08  1:17                             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  1:55                               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08  2:13                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  2:28                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08  3:44                                     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  3:53                                       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08  5:06                                         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08 12:46                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 13:03                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 13:07                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 14:33                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 14:49                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 15:05                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 15:23                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 16:02                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 16:24                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 17:21                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 13:00                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 14:10                                           ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08 14:49                                             ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-08-08 19:24                                               ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08 20:18                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 22:15                                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-08 22:47                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-09 12:18                                                       ` joel
2018-08-08 14:27                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 14:42                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-08 15:27                                               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-08-08 16:03                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-08-02 14:55 ` [PATCH v12 0/3] " Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-03  2:57   ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-03  7:23     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-04  4:51       ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-05 16:46         ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-06  2:07           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-08-06 15:24             ` Joel Fernandes
2018-08-03  7:34     ` Masami Hiramatsu

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