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From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
Cc: Kenneth Lee <liguozhu@hisilicon.com>,
	Kenneth Lee <nek.in.cn@gmail.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Sanjay Kumar <sanjay.k.kumar@intel.com>,
	Hao Fang <fanghao11@huawei.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxarm@huawei.com, Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Philippe Ombredanne <pombredanne@nexb.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-accelerators@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 14:04:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180907180412.GC3519@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <404f0944-d514-b450-f743-89ae798ac694@arm.com>

On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 06:55:45PM +0100, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:
> On 07/09/2018 17:53, Jerome Glisse wrote:
> > So there is no reasons to do that under VFIO. Especialy as in your example
> > it is not a real user space device driver, the userspace portion only knows
> > about writting command into command buffer AFAICT.
> > 
> > VFIO is for real userspace driver where interrupt, configurations, ... ie
> > all the driver is handled in userspace. This means that the userspace have
> > to be trusted as it could program the device to do DMA to anywhere (if
> > IOMMU is disabled at boot which is still the default configuration in the
> > kernel).
> 
> If the IOMMU is disabled (not exactly a kernel default by the way, I
> think most IOMMU drivers enable it by default), your userspace driver
> can't bypass DMA isolation by accident. It just won't be allowed to
> access the device. VFIO requires an IOMMU unless the admin forces the
> NOIOMMU mode with the "enable_unsafe_noiommu_mode" module parameter, and
> the userspace explicitly asks for it with VFIO_NOIOMMU_IOMMU, which
> taints the kernel. Not for production. A normal userspace driver that
> uses VFIO can only do DMA to its own memory.
> 

Didn't know about VFIO check, which is a sane thing. On Intel  IOMMU
is disabled by default (see INTEL_IOMMU_DEFAULT_ON Kconfig option).
I am pretty sure it use to be the same for AMD but maybe it is now
enabled by default.

Cheers,
Jérôme

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-07 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-03  0:51 [RFCv2 PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  0:51 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  0:51 ` [PATCH 2/7] iommu: Add share domain interface in iommu for sdmdev Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  0:52 ` [PATCH 3/7] vfio: add sdmdev support Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  2:11   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-06  8:08     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06  8:08       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  2:55   ` Lu Baolu
2018-09-06  9:01     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06  9:01       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-04 15:31   ` [RFC PATCH] vfio: vfio_sdmdev_groups[] can be static kbuild test robot
2018-09-04 15:32   ` [PATCH 3/7] vfio: add sdmdev support kbuild test robot
     [not found]   ` <20180903005204.26041-4-nek.in.cn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-04 15:32     ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-04 15:32       ` kbuild test robot
2018-09-05  7:27   ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-05  7:27     ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-03  0:52 ` [PATCH 4/7] crypto: add hisilicon Queue Manager driver Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  2:15   ` Randy Dunlap
     [not found]     ` <4e46a451-d1cd-ac68-84b4-20792fdbc733-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-06  9:08       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06  9:08         ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  0:52 ` [PATCH 5/7] crypto: Add Hisilicon Zip driver Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  0:52 ` [PATCH 6/7] crypto: add sdmdev support to Hisilicon QM Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  2:19   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-06  9:09     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06  9:09       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  0:52 ` [PATCH 7/7] vfio/sdmdev: add user sample Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  2:25   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-06  9:10     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06  9:10       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  2:32 ` [RFCv2 PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive Lu Baolu
     [not found]   ` <81edb8ff-d046-34e5-aee7-d8564e2517c2-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-06  9:11     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06  9:11       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-04 15:00 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-04 16:15   ` Alex Williamson
2018-09-06  9:45     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06  9:45       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06 13:31       ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]         ` <20180906133133.GA3830-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-07  4:01           ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-07  4:01             ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-07 16:53             ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-07 16:53               ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-07 17:55               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-07 18:04                 ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2018-09-10  3:28               ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-10  3:28                 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-10 14:54                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-10 14:54                   ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                   ` <20180910145423.GA3488-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-11  2:42                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-11  2:42                       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-11  3:33                       ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-11  3:33                         ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                         ` <20180911033358.GA4730-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-11  6:40                           ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-11  6:40                             ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-11 13:40                             ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                               ` <20180911134013.GA3932-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-13  8:32                                 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-13  8:32                                   ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-13 14:51                                   ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-14  3:12                                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-14  3:12                                       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-14 14:05                                       ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]                                     ` <20180913145149.GB3576-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-14  6:50                                       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-14  6:50                                         ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-14 13:05                                         ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-14 13:05                                           ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-14 13:05                                           ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-14 14:13                                         ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-14 14:13                                           ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-14 14:13                                           ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found] ` <20180903005204.26041-1-nek.in.cn-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-03  0:51   ` [PATCH 1/7] vfio/sdmdev: Add documents for WarpDrive framework Kenneth Lee
2018-09-03  0:51     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-06 18:36     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-09-07  2:21       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-07  2:21         ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-17  1:42   ` [RFCv2 PATCH 0/7] A General Accelerator Framework, WarpDrive Jerome Glisse
2018-09-17  1:42     ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]     ` <20180917014244.GA27596-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-17  8:39       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-17  8:39         ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-17 12:37         ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]           ` <20180917123744.GA3605-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-18  6:00             ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-18  6:00               ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-18 13:03               ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-20  5:55                 ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-20  5:55                   ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-20 14:23                   ` Jerome Glisse
2018-09-21 10:05                     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-21 10:05                       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-21 10:03     ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-21 10:03       ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-21 14:52       ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]         ` <20180921145201.GA3357-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-25  5:55           ` Kenneth Lee
2018-09-25  5:55             ` Kenneth Lee

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