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From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	ksummit <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Bug-introducing patches
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2018 15:43:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180907224346.GA21546@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyAWowFVi_UOkoJSfFb30Djk7JxRi4QFv7oJgpRKJxK0A@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 03:27:01PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 2:13 PM Sasha Levin via Ksummit-discuss
> <ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > 1. Grab a batch of ~2-3 week old commits from Linus's tree.
> > 2. Review, basic tests and send stable-rc notification.
> 
> Side note: maybe the stable grabbing and testing could be automated?
> 
> IOW, right now the stable people intentionally (generally) wait a week
> before they even start. Maybe there could be an automated queue for
> "this has been marked for stable" (and the whole "fixes:" magic that
> you guys already trigger on) that gets applied to the previous stable
> tree, and starts testing immediately.
> 
> Because one of the patterns we *do* obviously see is that something
> was fine in mainline, but then broke in stable because of an unforseen
> lack of depdenencies. Sure, it's probably pretty rare (and *many*
> dependencies willl show up as an actual conflict), but I think the
> times it does happen it's particularly painful because it can be so
> non-obvious.
> 
> So maybe an automated "linux-next" that starts happening *before* the
> rc stage would catch some things?
> 

And it does, as soon as Greg publishes a set of patches. At the very
least 0day runs on those, as well as my builders. There is a question
of scalability, though. I am sure that will improve over time as more
test resources become available, but six stable releases plus mainline
plus next plus whatever contributing branches covered by 0day and others
does take a lot of resources.

Personally I would suggest to further improve test coverage, not to add
more branches to test. More hardware for sure, but also adding more tests
such as the network testing suggested by Sasha.

Guenter

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-07 22:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-04 20:16 [Ksummit-discuss] [MAINTAINERS SUMMIT] Bug-introducing patches Sasha Levin
2018-09-04 20:53 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-05 14:17   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-07  0:51     ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07  1:09       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-07 20:12         ` Greg KH
2018-09-07 21:12           ` Greg KH
2018-09-07  1:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07  1:49         ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07  2:31           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07  2:45             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-07  3:43               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07  8:52                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-07  8:40               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-07  9:07                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-07  9:28                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-07 17:05                   ` Olof Johansson
2018-09-07 14:54             ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 15:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07 16:17                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07 21:39                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-09 12:50                   ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-10 20:05                     ` Tony Lindgren
2018-09-10 19:43                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-10 20:45                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-10 21:20                     ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-10 21:46                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-10 23:03                         ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-10 23:13                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 15:42                             ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 17:40                               ` Tony Lindgren
2018-09-11 17:47                                 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 18:12                                   ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 18:17                                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-12 15:15                                       ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 18:19                                     ` James Bottomley
2018-09-12 15:17                                       ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 18:39                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 20:09                                     ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 20:31                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 22:53                                         ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 23:04                                           ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-11 23:11                                             ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 23:20                                               ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-12 15:41                                                 ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-11 23:22                                           ` Tony Lindgren
2018-09-11 23:29                                             ` James Bottomley
2018-09-12 11:55                                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-12 12:03                                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-12 12:29                                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-12 12:53                                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-12 13:10                                                       ` Alexandre Belloni
2018-09-12 13:30                                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-12 23:16                                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-12 14:11                                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-19  8:26                                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20  9:02                                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-09-20 10:10                                                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20 11:00                                                               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-20 11:08                                                                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-20 11:49                                                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-12 12:36                                                 ` James Bottomley
2018-09-12 13:38                                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-12 13:59                                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2018-09-12 10:04                                             ` Mark Brown
2018-09-12 20:24                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-12 20:29                                             ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-13  0:19                                             ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-13 11:39                                               ` Mark Brown
2018-09-19  6:27                                                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-19 17:24                                                   ` Mark Brown
2018-09-19 21:42                                                     ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-11  0:49                           ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-11  1:01                             ` Al Viro
2018-09-11  0:47                         ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-11 17:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-11  0:43                       ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-11 16:49                         ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 17:47                           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 11:18                       ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 17:02                         ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-11 17:12                           ` Jani Nikula
2018-09-11 17:31                             ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 17:41                               ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-11 18:54                                 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 18:03                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-11 17:22                           ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 17:56                             ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 18:00                               ` James Bottomley
2018-09-11 18:16                                 ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 18:07                             ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2018-09-12  9:09                             ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-11 17:26                           ` Mark Brown
2018-09-11 18:45                           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-11 18:57                             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-11 20:15                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-12  9:03                           ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-10 23:01                     ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-10 23:12                       ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-10 23:32                         ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-10 23:38                           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-10 23:38                     ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07  2:33           ` Steven Rostedt
2018-09-07  2:52           ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-07 14:37             ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-07 15:06               ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 15:54                 ` Laura Abbott
2018-09-07 16:09                   ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 20:23                     ` Greg KH
2018-09-07 21:13                       ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 22:27                         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07 22:43                           ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2018-09-07 22:53                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-09-07 22:57                               ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 23:52                                 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-08 16:33                                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-09-08 18:35                                   ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-10 13:47                                     ` Mark Brown
2018-09-09  4:36                                   ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-10 16:20                             ` Dan Rue
2018-09-07 21:32                 ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-07 21:43                   ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-08 13:20                     ` Dan Carpenter
2018-09-10  8:23                     ` Jan Kara
2018-09-10  7:53                   ` Jan Kara
2018-09-07  3:38           ` Al Viro
2018-09-07  4:27           ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-09-07  5:45             ` Stephen Rothwell
2018-09-07  9:13             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-09-07 11:32               ` Mark Brown
2018-09-07 21:06               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-08  9:44                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-08 11:48                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-09-09 14:26                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-09-10 22:14                       ` Eduardo Valentin
2018-09-07 14:56             ` Sasha Levin
2018-09-07 15:07               ` Jens Axboe
2018-09-07 20:58                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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