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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: "jianchao.wang" <jianchao.w.wang@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu-refcount: relax limit on percpu_ref_reinit()
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:03:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180911040323.GC30977@ming.t460p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e91ee38e-3ea2-a003-2aac-8a8cc5c8f04a@oracle.com>

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 09:48:15AM +0800, jianchao.wang wrote:
> Hi Ming
> 
> On 09/11/2018 12:11 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> > Hi Jianchao,
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 09:40:35AM +0800, jianchao.wang wrote:
> >> Hi Ming
> >>
> >> On 09/09/2018 08:58 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
> >>> Now percpu_ref_reinit() can only be done on one percpu refcounter
> >>> when it drops zero. And the limit shouldn't be so strict, and it
> >>> is quite straightforward that percpu_ref_reinit() can be done when
> >>> this counter is at atomic mode.
> >>
> >> As we know, when the percpu_ref is switched to atomic mode, the values
> >> of the per cpu will be sumed up to the atomic conter in percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_rcu.
> > 
> > Right.
> > 
> >>
> >> However, the tricky part is:
> >> when we switch back to percpu mode, how can we know the exact value of the value of every cpu ?
> > 
> > The exact value of each CPU is zero at the exact time:
> > 
> > 1) when percpu mode is switched from atomic mode
> > 
> > percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic_rcu() is the point where no any percpu inc/dec
> > can happen any more. And in this function the percpu count is sumed up to
> > the atomic counter, meantime this patch clears the percpu value. It means
> > once the refcount is switched to atomic mode, the percpu value is always
> > zero, doesn't it?
> > 
> > 2) when the percpu-refcount is initialized at percpu mode
> > 
> > the percpu value is zero too.
> 
> What we want to get is to switch the percpu refcounter to percpu mode from atomic mode when
> the refcounter has _not_ been drained to zero, instead of just to discard the warning, right ?

Right, it does work in this way as I explained.

The idea is simple, atomic mode is one easy mode to switch to percpu
mode, and we don't have to wait until the whole ref-count(at atomic mode)
drops zero for the switching.

> 
> When we have sumed the values of every cpu's refcounter to a global atomic counter, how can
> we give the values back to the refcounter of every cpu ?

Who will use percpu-refcounter in this way? From user's view, only the
whole counting matters.

After the refcount is switched to atomic mode, the whole counting is
done on the atomic part. Then if the refcount need to switch to percpu mode
again, all percpu part of the counter is re-initialized as zero simply. This
is invariant with/without this patch.

Thanks,
Ming

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-11  9:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-09 12:58 [PATCH] percpu-refcount: relax limit on percpu_ref_reinit() Ming Lei
2018-09-09 18:46 ` Bart Van Assche
2018-09-09 23:59   ` Ming Lei
2018-09-10  1:40 ` jianchao.wang
2018-09-10 16:11   ` Ming Lei
2018-09-11  1:48     ` jianchao.wang
2018-09-11  4:03       ` Ming Lei [this message]
2018-09-11  4:40         ` jianchao.wang
2018-09-11  4:40           ` jianchao.wang
2018-09-11  8:20           ` Ming Lei
2018-09-11 14:22             ` jianchao.wang
2018-09-11 13:44           ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-11 14:13             ` jianchao.wang
2018-09-10  1:54 ` jianchao.wang
2018-09-10 16:49 ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-11  0:00   ` Ming Lei
2018-09-11 13:48     ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-11 15:45       ` Ming Lei
2018-09-11 15:49         ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-11 16:05           ` Ming Lei
2018-09-11 16:30             ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-11 16:34               ` Ming Lei
2018-09-11 16:38                 ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-12  1:52                   ` Ming Lei
2018-09-12 15:53                     ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-12 22:11                       ` Ming Lei
2018-09-12 22:11                         ` Ming Lei
2018-09-18 12:49                         ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-18 12:49                           ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-19  2:51                           ` Ming Lei
2018-09-19  2:51                             ` Ming Lei
2018-09-19 20:36                             ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-19 20:36                               ` Tejun Heo
2018-09-18  3:21 ` jianchao.wang
2018-09-18  7:34   ` Ming Lei

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