From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF25C43382 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0BA82098A for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 13:14:11 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org F0BA82098A Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=thyrsus.com Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729493AbeIYTVk (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Sep 2018 15:21:40 -0400 Received: from thyrsus.com ([71.162.243.5]:50490 "EHLO snark.thyrsus.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1728272AbeIYTVj (ORCPT ); Tue, 25 Sep 2018 15:21:39 -0400 Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 865823A42A5; Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 09:13:44 -0400 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Christoph Conrads Cc: Pavel Machek , Edward Cree , Olof Johansson , Jonathan Corbet , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Code of Conduct: Let's revamp it. Message-ID: <20180925131344.GB7479@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com Mail-Followup-To: esr@thyrsus.com, Christoph Conrads , Pavel Machek , Edward Cree , Olof Johansson , Jonathan Corbet , Linux Kernel Mailing List References: <20180919081812.020f19e3@lwn.net> <72dadc76-44fe-ecb5-e142-0a9129082c93@cantab.net> <93b77a9a-12c3-6f7d-d2c3-0e0d7875a28b@cantab.net> <20180925112832.GA10951@amd> <20180925143645.af1457944142ecfec7199d80@christoph-conrads.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180925143645.af1457944142ecfec7199d80@christoph-conrads.name> Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Christoph Conrads : > The CoC is a political document: > https://web.archive.org/web/20180924234027/https://twitter.com/coralineada/status/1041465346656530432 And there is no level on which this is anything but bad. The kernel devs are a very large, very diverse, multi-national, multi-cultural group. We have nothing to gain by getting entangled with political culture wars, and everything to lose. -- Eric S. Raymond My work is funded by the Internet Civil Engineering Institute: https://icei.org Please visit their site and donate: the civilization you save might be your own.