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Message-ID: <20180926203355.rfmezs3lbmlcvv3x@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Joey Pabalinas , "\\0xDynamite" , Bernd Petrovitsch , "jonsmirl@gmail.com" , Theodore Tso , fche@redhat.com, riel@surriel.com, ec429@cantab.net, Olof Johansson , Jonathan Corbet , lkml References: <87zhwbj8xe.fsf@redhat.com> <20180921231545.GC2966@thunk.org> <8c18dcc5-9028-672f-1449-359ac3d73592@petrovitsch.priv.at> <9be16b08-7aa9-d42e-24c0-f054af39b78a@petrovitsch.priv.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="prkrf3bxpnkwi76x" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20180716-423-e60b71 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --prkrf3bxpnkwi76x Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 02:34:07PM -0500, \0xDynamite wrote: > >> You confuse the issue. My definition included "intended for the > >> public". But it isn't clear that open source code is intended for the > >> public -- it is intended for those who code or wish to. >=20 > > Well, then I have to repeat myself: Signed-off source code (in form of > > patches) in a well-known programming language for a (nowadays) > > well-known GPLv2 licensed project mailed on "everyone can subscribe" > > mailinglists, (thus) to be found in several $SEARCH_ENGINE-indexed > > mailinglist archives, if accepted to be found in lots of publicly > > accessible git repos can be not intended to be published? >=20 > You did it again. You changed words. I said intended for the public, > and you ended your sentence with "intended to be published". >=20 > Like it or not, both the law and English grammar have ambiguities. > People put up with them because they share a common intuition (in a > lot of cases) of what each other means. >=20 > If you share a birthday card with your personal love note inscribed > and the birthday girl sends it around to everyone at the party, have > you been violated? She might argue: how did you expect it to remain > private if you knew there were several people invited to the birthday > party? English does have oddities, agreed. However, open source code is definitely intended for the public as well. If I post an ad targeted at dog owners in my local town hall, it doesn't mean it's not intended for the public. Even though it is only for dog owners (or those who wish to be), it is still available freely to the general public. --=20 Cheers, Joey Pabalinas --prkrf3bxpnkwi76x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEKlZXrihdNOcUPZTNruvLfWhyVBkFAlur8igACgkQruvLfWhy VBnSxxAAkAFBvqH8mpjjJFdGLncgGa3YAAkn7QN10pjJHsWqWUq+38g1rGZ1JzRw FraIKnGce447X2ew0wJEY4VriyumtJGGLMC8Q3YXL+Rva0qypB4XTVNr1Ck2zQDK 4/F6C8A+4QwHz8byIQq6/ysTnl7NMDiBIq0l2822q6/4K+mlz0kyxsCB+tlrk/oV uzYexTVmF8MPWepYrqw/9Y8P9HmmWjEMMJ3q8MgB+9TwWjG5o0Ossy0elVk0nlR1 Y+u24T1td+eNROBqt1Lcxvne7gtUx9zfBInQObO1bA3SBeI9uP4tC8fsWp4W2YkS LGCdBHZuF6IGLn9Vc9OHKexsG1Gd3HOb78ceAb3e/jww8p9q8+WDYP230NtFsR1Z lrNAZm99KkyxVKZGuJDlJwaAin/ZnlnuuBwYPF3gm5kSEtkhxMDeIT92wD6YXKti dBYPzHZb5f9EAalJ8ed/EoHsi0Tmwt7ud6DdPeiLtisiSz4HhBwcHPHa8C2huZJU Jlwp+xfbN4AA6pvQ4DM7nXdPlohSl9rzjVhwUe4wweGDmXGZLKeHTlYDLjGeuW2B FsQNS1cOJgf1F1Lz+4xY53AsaeXfgmyvHCAFZtqopN9giW4HcZSk0EHRNqooQ7IK uc0h1kVnIAV+Da5yQp+QcxomsTsUITHj3jgkIhk7UDgjbhgu+v8= =9Ugf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --prkrf3bxpnkwi76x--