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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
To: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	syzbot <syzbot+77e6b28a7a7106ad0def@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	guro@fb.com,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
	Yang Shi <yang.s@alibaba-inc.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Subject: Re: INFO: rcu detected stall in shmem_fault
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 00:17:29 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181010151729.GC3949@tigerII.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACT4Y+ZfVdeB-WNeLCWJvTHNeCUtR3r1R+3Qjv9XjZXPxaV2WA@mail.gmail.com>

On (10/10/18 14:29), Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> >> A bit unrelated, but while we are at it:
> >>
> >>   I like it when we rate-limit printk-s that lookup the system.
> >> But it seems that default rate-limit values are not always good enough,
> >> DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_INTERVAL / DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_BURST can still be too
> >> verbose. For instance, when we have a very slow IPMI emulated serial
> >> console -- e.g. baud rate at 57600. DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_INTERVAL and
> >> DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_BURST can add new OOM headers and backtraces faster
> >> than we evict them.
> >>
> >> Does it sound reasonable enough to use larger than default rate-limits
> >> for printk-s in OOM print-outs? OOM reports tend to be somewhat large
> >> and the reported numbers are not always *very* unique.
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >
> > I do not really care about the current inerval/burst values. This change
> > should be done seprately and ideally with some numbers.
> 
> I think Sergey meant that this place may need to use
> larger-than-default values because it prints lots of output per
> instance (whereas the default limit is more tuned for cases that print
> just 1 line).
> 
> I've found at least 1 place that uses DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_INTERVAL*10:
> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/fs/btrfs/extent-tree.c#L8365
> Probably we need something similar here.

Yes, Dmitry, that's what I meant - to use something like
DEFAULT_RATELIMIT_INTERVAL * 10 in OOM. I didn't mean to change
the default values system wide.

---

We are not rate-limiting a single annoying printk() in OOM, but
functions that do a whole bunch of printks - OOM header, backtraces, etc.
Thus OOM report can be, I don't know, 50 or 70 or 100 lines (who knows).
So that's why rate-limit in OOM is more permissive in terms of number of
printed lines. When we rate-limit a single printk() we let 10 prinks()
/*10 lines*/ max every 5 seconds. While in OOM this transforms into
10 dump_header() + 10 oom_kill_process() every 5 seconds. Still can be
too many printk()-s, enough to lockup the system.

	-ss

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-10 15:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-10  0:08 syzbot
2018-10-10  0:12 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-10  4:11   ` David Rientjes
2018-10-10  7:55     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-10-10  9:13       ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10  9:33         ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-10-10  9:02     ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10  8:59   ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 10:43     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-10 11:35       ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 11:48         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-10-10 12:25           ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 12:29             ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-10-10 12:36               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-10-10 13:10                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-10 13:17                   ` Dmitry Vyukov
2018-10-11  1:17                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-10-10 15:17               ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2018-10-10 14:19         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-10 15:11 ` [RFC PATCH] memcg, oom: throttle dump_header for memcg ooms without eligible tasks Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 15:11   ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-11  6:37   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-11  6:37     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-12 10:47     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-12 10:47       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-12 11:20   ` Johannes Weiner
2018-10-12 12:08     ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-12 12:10       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-12 12:41         ` Johannes Weiner
2018-10-12 12:58           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-13 11:09             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-13 11:22               ` Johannes Weiner
2018-10-13 11:28                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-15  8:19                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-15 10:57                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-15 11:24                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-15 12:47                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-15 13:35                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-16  0:55                             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-16  9:20                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-16 11:05                                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-10-16 11:17                                   ` Michal Hocko

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