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From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@bootlin.com>
Cc: "Hollingworth, Gordon" <gordon@raspberrypi.org>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Eben Upton <eben@raspberrypi.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] drm/vc4: Add a load tracker to prevent HVS underflow errors
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:44:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181023134443.GQ324@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181023095508.21a9cabd@bbrezillon>

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 09:55:08AM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:57:43 +0200
> Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:40:45AM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > The HVS block is supposed to fill the pixelvalve FIFOs fast enough to
> > > meet the requested framerate. The problem is, the HVS and memory bus
> > > bandwidths are limited, and if we don't take these limitations into
> > > account we might end up with HVS underflow errors.
> > > 
> > > This patch is trying to model the per-plane HVS and memory bus bandwidth
> > > consumption and take a decision at atomic_check() time whether the
> > > estimated load will fit in the HVS and membus budget.
> > > 
> > > Note that we take an extra margin on the memory bus consumption to let
> > > the system run smoothly when other blocks are doing heavy use of the
> > > memory bus. Same goes for the HVS limit, except the margin is smaller in
> > > this case, since the HVS is not used by external components.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@bootlin.com>
> > > ---
> > > This logic has been validated using a simple shell script and
> > > some instrumentation in the VC4 driver:
> > > 
> > > - capture underflow errors at the HVS level and expose a debugfs file
> > >   reporting those errors
> > > - add debugfs files to expose when atomic_check fails because of the
> > >   HVS or membus load limitation or when it fails for other reasons
> > > 
> > > The branch containing those modification is available here [1], and the
> > > script (which is internally using modetest) is here [2] (please note
> > > that I'm bad at writing shell scripts :-)).
> > > 
> > > Note that those modification tend to over-estimate the load, and thus
> > > reject setups that might have previously worked, so we might want to
> > > adjust the limits to avoid that.
> > > 
> > > [1]https://github.com/bbrezillon/linux/tree/vc4/hvs-bandwidth-eval
> > > [2]https://github.com/bbrezillon/vc4-hvs-bandwidth-test  
> > 
> > Any interest in using igt to test this stuff? We have at least a bunch of
> > tests already in there that try all kinds of plane setups. And we use
> > those to hunt for underruns on i915 hw.
> > 
> > Wrt underrun reporting: On i915 we just dump them into dmesg at the error
> > level, using DRM_ERROR,
> 
> Are you masking the underrun interrupt after it's been reported? If we
> don't do that on VC4 we just end up flooding the kernel-log buffer until
> someone comes and update the config.

Yeah we do that too. Rule is that a full modeset will clear any underrun
masking (so tests need to make sure they start with a modeset, or it'll be
for nothing).

> 
> > plus a tracepoint. See e.g.
> > intel_pch_fifo_underrun_irq_handler(). If there's interest we could
> > perhaps extract this into something common, similar to what was done with
> > crc support already.
> > 
> 
> I'm not a big fan of hardcoded trace points in general (because of the
> whole "it's part of the stable ABI" thing), and in this case, making the
> tracepoint generic sounds even more risky to me. Indeed, how can we know
> about all the HW specific bits one might want to expose. For instance,
> I see the intel underrun tracepoint exposes a struct with a frame and
> scanline field, and AFAICT, we don't have such information in the VC4
> case.
> 
> Any opinion on that?

It's only abi if you're unlucky. If it's just for debugging and
validation, you can change it again. Tbh, no idea why we even have these
tracepoints, they're fairly useless imo. CI only relies upon the dmesg
output. Maybe run git blame and ask the original author, we can probably
update them to suit our needs.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-23 13:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-16  9:40 [RFC PATCH] drm/vc4: Add a load tracker to prevent HVS underflow errors Boris Brezillon
2018-10-16 12:57 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-16 13:10   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-16 13:12     ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-16 13:28       ` Ville Syrjälä
2018-10-16 16:41         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-16 17:39           ` Ville Syrjälä
2018-10-16 17:51             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-17 13:45           ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-23  7:55   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-23 13:44     ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2018-10-25  8:09       ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-25  9:33         ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-25  9:41           ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-26 13:30             ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-26 13:57               ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-26 14:26                 ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-26 14:52                   ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-26 15:10                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2018-10-29  8:06                       ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-29  8:41                         ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-29  9:03                           ` Daniel Vetter
2018-10-29  9:10                             ` Boris Brezillon
2018-10-29 13:48                               ` Daniel Vetter

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