From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS, USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1E7C0044C for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:48:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF852081B for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 21:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=joelfernandes.org header.i=@joelfernandes.org header.b="ld42mQ04" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 9CF852081B Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=joelfernandes.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726161AbeKAGrw (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Nov 2018 02:47:52 -0400 Received: from mail-pl1-f193.google.com ([209.85.214.193]:44843 "EHLO mail-pl1-f193.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725919AbeKAGrw (ORCPT ); Thu, 1 Nov 2018 02:47:52 -0400 Received: by mail-pl1-f193.google.com with SMTP id s5-v6so6227839plq.11 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:47:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=joelfernandes.org; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=flC3YvOdR/CDAH/KjU3dU44tS/ZG6c7VBcpk4NBkqN8=; b=ld42mQ04PUVMlbFTSM1MOMaE0TKH4woX6E+BvqmC6LN2KN/zP0jCAaCKjSMIDsi283 p6xKatCS7wA95mAjVI0950yQ1Q0RKoNeqInrqrofRsduIyY6gQjtOHDjHrTqroxelXeF sPUyOeYq2EK5QCNUzR6GgXvxilGU9ZrEJ4W3w= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=flC3YvOdR/CDAH/KjU3dU44tS/ZG6c7VBcpk4NBkqN8=; b=cAYCcTw1/m3keMwuG4LlbbOfxQXRCFju6gMWGTRHKuto+M9Dqj7A748wjLWFXSLsCT tKm2tA3GAiaGZy0U2s4R4J+KvcLeqSooMB6z1CGZUMDxDjQtAfVFQBuQw14pPP5l6K+X P4Om3J+hYz6WcpZnJVHqPU50IvXfpFwwybRESZGKSviqGtDhZrG8KP5z+ZJOyz6eGkxT g86z3x9wJX4gUalEkgspsz6Jo8u+56AKWlPfW4yOM8RKAMdFvLDGo/qcoTxFZgu5Dh7B 3pLQSsP0uGcjHtABiLFqkMgVN459wHWU1bRGmrbavjDjIxJc3B5mPXfBJ6mnxA6uhgjV Ejgg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gLIPdJJUNhNnVS6t4T3UbWY5shjqTDpYhgo1hBgEWnBwfWs3M2b RDunGqx3uq7KVcU58EOzgMI13g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5ehdo3NOjE5jyfzrTzhrVDE3/n08ddTS2P++GRz1KMXuewOXi4A3lGRpns9JviICSJjLEtVyA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:9b84:: with SMTP id y4-v6mr5113519plp.332.1541022477523; Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost ([2620:0:1000:1601:3aef:314f:b9ea:889f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h6-v6sm36519594pgm.14.2018.10.31.14.47.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:47:54 -0700 From: Joel Fernandes To: Aleksa Sarai Cc: Daniel Colascione , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, timmurray@google.com, surenb@google.com, christian.brauner@canonical.com, ebiederm@xmission.com, keescook@chromium.org, oleg@redhat.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Implement /proc/pid/kill Message-ID: <20181031214754.GA52047@google.com> References: <20181029221037.87724-1-dancol@google.com> <20181031143744.77677-1-dancol@google.com> <20181031150548.GA103404@joelaf.mtv.corp.google.com> <20181031173353.uob5qikkhsb5digy@yavin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20181031173353.uob5qikkhsb5digy@yavin> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Nov 01, 2018 at 04:33:53AM +1100, Aleksa Sarai wrote: > On 2018-10-31, Joel Fernandes wrote: > > I suggest to maintainers we take this in as an intermediate solution > > since we don't have anything close to it and this is a real issue, and > > the fix proposed is simple. > > I would suggest we wait until after LPC to see what Christian's design > is (given that, from what I've heard, it will help us solve more > problems than just the kill(2) issue). > > I am very skeptical of adding new procfs files as an "intermediate > solution" (procfs is the most obvious example of an interface which is > effectively written in stone). Especially if this would conflict with > the idea Christian will propose -- as he said, there were proposals to > do this in the past and they didn't get anywhere because of lack of > discussion and brainstorming before posting patches. > Fine with me, thanks.