From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,USER_AGENT_MUTT autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E15AC43441 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562E32081C for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:10:39 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key) header.d=thunk.org header.i=@thunk.org header.b="ViC1KY8b" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 562E32081C Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=mit.edu Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1729027AbeK2DMr (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Nov 2018 22:12:47 -0500 Received: from imap.thunk.org ([74.207.234.97]:40302 "EHLO imap.thunk.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727979AbeK2DMr (ORCPT ); Wed, 28 Nov 2018 22:12:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thunk.org; s=ef5046eb; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID: Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=HURevatcZuP21/Mj07Lpo+reeimkNgX+TTfBRbY4s7U=; b=ViC1KY8bY/nzK8uVcGYIp48vlG QwEDQqWLTSrinZHrUOjKJoI2aSWBtkgTxo0EQ5KZh8+KY0V1Wcaa4xEsMoSs80nAgoVkJLIAoE2gy f49bL4ycoiUX2yUKPJFgd7gYCxbek6dw95Z9qJs70rdZpp3VBAS7vSYYA5AfcHljLvzA=; Received: from root (helo=callcc.thunk.org) by imap.thunk.org with local-esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gS2Q6-0001E4-3r; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:10:34 +0000 Received: by callcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id 55D357A45D8; Wed, 28 Nov 2018 11:10:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 11:10:33 -0500 From: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" To: Rainer Fiebig Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrey Jr. Melnikov" , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: ext4 file system corruption with v4.19.3 / v4.19.4 Message-ID: <20181128161033.GH31885@thunk.org> Mail-Followup-To: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" , Rainer Fiebig , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Andrey Jr. Melnikov" , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org References: <065643a0-f9aa-a361-715a-03ca978d9228@roeck-us.net> <20181128041555.GE31885@thunk.org> <2547416.7Vy7A2kRpU@siriux> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2547416.7Vy7A2kRpU@siriux> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: tytso@thunk.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on imap.thunk.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 04:56:51PM +0100, Rainer Fiebig wrote: > > If you still see the errors, at least the Ubuntu-kernel could be ruled out. My impression is that some of the people reporting problems have been using stock upstream kernels, so I wasn't really worried about the Ubuntu kernel (although it could be something about the default configs that Ubuntu sets up). What I was more wondering was whether there was something about userspace or default configs of Ubuntu. This isn't necessarily a *problem* per se; for examople, not that long ago some users were getting surprised when a problem showed up with an older version of the LVM2 userspace with newer upstream kernels. After a while, you learn to get super paranoid about making sure to rule out all possibilities when trying to debug problems that are only hitting a set of users. - Ted