From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D733CC04EB8 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 20:53:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD7B2082F for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 20:53:52 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 9DD7B2082F Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=goodmis.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1726651AbeLAIEW (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Dec 2018 03:04:22 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:33790 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1725941AbeLAIEW (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Dec 2018 03:04:22 -0500 Received: from gandalf.local.home (cpe-66-24-56-78.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.56.78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D5582082F; Fri, 30 Nov 2018 20:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:53:47 -0500 From: Steven Rostedt To: Abuse Cc: David Miller , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/15] Zero ****s, hugload of hugs <3 Message-ID: <20181130155347.62cf074d@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: <2269948.6tYQeUj9R1@eth7> References: <2007856.n5V9iKLVsV@eth7> <20181130.124228.979846577878820546.davem@davemloft.net> <2269948.6tYQeUj9R1@eth7> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org [ Cleared out the Cc list to something more reasonable ] On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 20:45:57 +0000 Abuse wrote: > On Friday, 30 November 2018 20:42:28 GMT David Miller wrote: > > From: Abuse > > Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 20:39:01 +0000 > > > > > I assume I will now be barred. > > > > Perhaps, but not because you said fuck. It would be because you're > > intentionally creating a disturbance on the list and making it more > > difficult for developers to get their work done and intentionally > > creating a distraction and a hostile environment for the discussion at > > hand. > > > > That would not be censorship. > > > > There is a big difference. > > > > I would beg to differ, as would calling the removal of the word 'Fuck' censorship. Technically that is censorship. The only reason to remove the word is because some people find it unnecessary, where as other people find it appropriate. Removing language people find unnecessary or offensive is censorship. That said. I don't always find censorship a bad thing. Removing language that was an attack to someone's race, religion, sexuality, is also censorship. But I'm fine with that kind of censorship. Censoring words that someone simply finds distasteful, I honestly don't really care, because some people find "heck" distasteful too. I would also agree with you that David blocking you for creating a disturbance is also censorship. But that's also a kind of censorship I would prefer to have. (Blocking spam is censorship too). -- Steve > > It's a word I find is totally unnecessary in normal public usage. >