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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
To: Sasha Levin <sashal@kernel.org>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Wang <wonderfly@google.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org, Alexander.Levin@microsoft.com,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	byungchul.park@lge.com, dave.hansen@intel.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, jack@suse.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	mhocko@kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz,
	penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	tj@kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	vbabka@suse.cz, Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Peter Feiner <pfeiner@google.com>
Subject: Re: 4.14 backport request for dbdda842fe96f: "printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes"
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 17:10:34 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181212081034.GA32687@jagdpanzerIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181212064841.GB2746@sasha-vm>

On (12/12/18 01:48), Sasha Levin wrote:
> > > > I guess we still don't have a really clear understanding of what exactly
> > > is going in your system
> > > 
> > > I would also like to get to the bottom of it. Unfortunately I haven't
> > > got the expertise in this area nor the time to do it yet. Hence the
> > > intent to take a step back and backport Steven's patch to fix the
> > > issue that has resurfaced in our production recently.
> > 
> > No problem.
> > I just meant that -stable people can be a bit "unconvinced".
> 
> The -stable people tried adding this patch back in April, but ended up
> getting complaints up the wazoo (https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/4/9/154)
> about how this is not -stable material.

OK, really didn't know that! I wasn't Cc-ed on that AUTOSEL email,
and I wasn't Cc-ed on this whole discussion and found it purely
accidentally while browsing linux-mm list.

I understand what Petr meant by his email. Not arguing; below are just
my 5 cents.

> So yes, testing/acks welcome :)

OK. The way I see it (and I can be utterly wrong here):

The patch set in question, most likely and probably (*and those are
theories*), makes panic() deadlock less likely because panic_cpu waits
for console_sem owner to release uart_port/console_owner locks before
panic_cpu pr_emerg("Kernel panic - not syncing"), dump_stack()-s and
brings other CPUs down via stop IPI or NMI.
So a precondition is
		panic CPU != uart_port->lock owner CPU

If the panic happens on the same CPU which holds the uart_port spin_lock,
then the deadlock is still there, just like before; we have another patch
which attempts to fix this (it makes console drivers re-entrant from
panic()).

So if you are willing to backport this set to -stable, then I wouldn't
mind, probably would be more correct if we don't advertise this as a
"panic() deadlock fix" tho; we know that deadlock is still possible.
And there will be another -stable backport request in a week or so.


In the meantime, I can add my Acked-by to this backport if it helps.

/* Assuming that my theories explain what's happening with
   Daniel's systems. */

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-12  8:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-27 19:46 4.14 backport request for dbdda842fe96f: "printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes" Daniel Wang
2018-10-01 19:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-10-01 20:13   ` Pavel Machek
2018-10-01 20:21     ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-10-01 20:38       ` Daniel Wang
2018-10-01 20:29     ` Steven Rostedt
2018-10-01 20:37   ` Daniel Wang
2018-10-01 20:40     ` Sasha Levin
2018-10-01 20:40       ` Sasha Levin
2018-10-02  8:42     ` Petr Mladek
2018-10-02 17:21       ` Daniel Wang
2018-10-03  0:15       ` Daniel Wang
2018-10-03  1:23         ` Steven Rostedt
2018-10-03  9:14           ` Petr Mladek
2018-10-03 17:16             ` Daniel Wang
2018-10-03 17:37               ` Steven Rostedt
2018-10-03 18:37                 ` Daniel Wang
2018-10-03 23:37                   ` Daniel Wang
2018-10-04  7:44                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-10-04  8:05                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-10-04  8:36                     ` Petr Mladek
2018-10-04  8:55                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-10-04  8:55                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-10-21 18:09                         ` Daniel Wang
2018-10-22  9:32                           ` Petr Mladek
2018-10-22 10:09                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-11-01 16:05                             ` Daniel Wang
2018-11-09  6:47                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-12  1:16                                 ` Daniel Wang
2018-12-12  5:21                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-12  6:08                                     ` Daniel Wang
2018-12-12  6:28                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-12  6:48                                         ` Sasha Levin
2018-12-12  8:10                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2018-12-12 13:36                                             ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-12 13:59                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-12 17:43                                                 ` Sasha Levin
2018-12-12 20:11                                                   ` Daniel Wang
2018-12-12 21:43                                                     ` Sasha Levin
2018-12-12 21:49                                                       ` Daniel Wang
2018-12-12 21:52                                                         ` Sasha Levin
2018-12-12 21:56                                                           ` Daniel Wang
2018-12-13  0:40                                                             ` Daniel Wang
2018-12-13  2:27                                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-13  2:39                                                                 ` Daniel Wang
2018-12-13  9:59                                                                   ` Petr Mladek
2018-12-13 14:29                                                                     ` Sasha Levin
2018-12-13  2:07                                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-28  0:16                                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-12-28  8:27                                               ` Greg KH
2018-12-28 22:03                                                 ` Daniel Wang
2018-12-28 22:03                                                   ` Daniel Wang
2018-12-30  3:03                                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2018-10-04  7:49                 ` Petr Mladek
2018-10-02  8:16 ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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