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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: jasowang@redhat.com
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	mst@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/3] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap()
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 11:43:08 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181215.114308.647436101869587689.davem__29777.7008651339$1544902867$gmane$org@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <836932fc-9266-b73d-2ee5-645f399e1a54@redhat.com>

From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2018 12:29:54 +0800

> 
> On 2018/12/14 上午4:12, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 06:10:19PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> This series tries to access virtqueue metadata through kernel virtual
>>> address instead of copy_user() friends since they had too much
>>> overheads like checks, spec barriers or even hardware feature
>>> toggling.
>>>
>>> Test shows about 24% improvement on TX PPS. It should benefit other
>>> cases as well.
>>>
>>> Please review
>> I think the idea of speeding up userspace access is a good one.
>> However I think that moving all checks to start is way too aggressive.
> 
> 
> So did packet and AF_XDP. Anyway, sharing address space and access
> them directly is the fastest way. Performance is the major
> consideration for people to choose backend. Compare to userspace
> implementation, vhost does not have security advantages at any
> level. If vhost is still slow, people will start to develop backends
> based on e.g AF_XDP.

Exactly, this is precisely how this kind of problem should be solved.

Michael, I strongly support the approach Jason is taking here, and I
would like to ask you to seriously reconsider your objections.

Thank you.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-15 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-13 10:10 [PATCH net-next 0/3] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap() Jason Wang
2018-12-13 10:10 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] vhost: generalize adding used elem Jason Wang
2018-12-13 19:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 19:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14  4:00     ` Jason Wang
2018-12-14  4:00     ` Jason Wang
2018-12-13 10:10 ` Jason Wang
2018-12-13 10:10 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] vhost: fine grain userspace memory accessors Jason Wang
2018-12-13 10:10 ` Jason Wang
2018-12-13 10:10 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] vhost: access vq metadata through kernel virtual address Jason Wang
2018-12-13 10:10 ` Jason Wang
2018-12-13 15:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 15:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 21:18     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-13 21:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 21:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 21:18     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-12-14  3:57     ` Jason Wang
2018-12-14  3:57     ` Jason Wang
2018-12-14 12:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-24  7:53         ` Jason Wang
2018-12-24  7:53         ` Jason Wang
2018-12-24 18:10           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-25 10:05             ` Jason Wang
2018-12-25 10:05               ` Jason Wang
2018-12-25 12:50               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-25 12:50                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-26  3:57                 ` Jason Wang
2018-12-26  3:57                 ` Jason Wang
2018-12-26 15:02                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-26 15:02                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-27  9:39                     ` Jason Wang
2018-12-30 18:30                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-30 18:30                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-01-02 11:38                         ` Jason Wang
2019-01-02 11:38                         ` Jason Wang
2018-12-27  9:39                     ` Jason Wang
2018-12-24 18:10           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14 12:36       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-15 21:15       ` David Miller
2018-12-15 21:15         ` David Miller
2018-12-14 14:48   ` kbuild test robot
2018-12-14 14:48   ` kbuild test robot
2018-12-13 15:27 ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] vhost: accelerate metadata access through vmap() Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14  3:42   ` Jason Wang
2018-12-14  3:42   ` Jason Wang
2018-12-14 12:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14 12:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14 15:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14 15:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-24  8:32       ` Jason Wang
2018-12-24  8:32         ` Jason Wang
2018-12-24 18:12         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-24 18:12           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-25 10:09           ` Jason Wang
2018-12-25 10:09             ` Jason Wang
2018-12-25 12:52             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-25 12:52               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-26  3:59               ` Jason Wang
2018-12-26  3:59                 ` Jason Wang
2018-12-13 15:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 20:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14  4:29   ` Jason Wang
2018-12-14  4:29   ` Jason Wang
2018-12-14 12:52     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14 12:52     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-15 19:43     ` David Miller [this message]
2018-12-15 19:43     ` David Miller
2018-12-16 19:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-24  8:44         ` Jason Wang
2018-12-24  8:44         ` Jason Wang
2018-12-24 19:09           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-24 19:09             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-16 19:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 20:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14 15:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14 15:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 10:10 Jason Wang

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