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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: "xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Paul Durrant <paul@xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 05/21] IOMMU/x86: restrict IO-APIC mappings for PV Dom0
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 15:55:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2018a835-e924-7d70-1160-227acd75947c@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YnKDm3fHHyjQ8vV6@Air-de-Roger>

On 04.05.2022 15:46, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 03:19:16PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
>> On 04.05.2022 15:00, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 02:12:58PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>> On 04.05.2022 14:01, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 12:51:25PM +0200, Jan Beulich wrote:
>>>>>> On 04.05.2022 12:30, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
>>>>>>> Right, ->iomem_caps is indeed too wide for our purpose.  What
>>>>>>> about using something like:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> else if ( is_pv_domain(d) )
>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>     if ( !iomem_access_permitted(d, pfn, pfn) )
>>>>>>>         return 0;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can't return 0 here (as RAM pages also make it here when
>>>>>> !iommu_hwdom_strict), so I can at best take this as a vague outline
>>>>>> of what you really mean. And I don't want to rely on RAM pages being
>>>>>> (imo wrongly) represented by set bits in Dom0's iomem_caps.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, yes, my suggestion was taking into account that ->iomem_caps for
>>>>> dom0 has mostly holes for things that shouldn't be mapped, but
>>>>> otherwise contains everything else as allowed (including RAM).
>>>>>
>>>>> We could instead do:
>>>>>
>>>>> else if ( is_pv_domain(d) && type != RAM_TYPE_CONVENTIONAL )
>>>>> {
>>>>>     ...
>>>>>
>>>>> So that we don't rely on RAM being 'allowed' in ->iomem_caps?
>>>>
>>>> This would feel to me like excess special casing.
>>>
>>> What about placing this in the 'default:' label on the type switch a
>>> bit above?
>>
>> I'd really like to stick to the present layout of where the special
>> casing is done, with PV and PVH logic at least next to each other. I
>> continue to think the construct I suggested (still visible below)
>> would do.
>>
>>>>>>>     if ( rangeset_contains_singleton(mmio_ro_ranges, pfn) )
>>>>>>>         return IOMMUF_readable;
>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That would get us a bit closer to allowed CPU side mappings, and we
>>>>>>> don't need to special case IO-APIC or HPET addresses as those are
>>>>>>> already added to ->iomem_caps or mmio_ro_ranges respectively by
>>>>>>> dom0_setup_permissions().
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This won't fit in a region of code framed by a (split) comment
>>>>>> saying "Check that it doesn't overlap with ...". Hence if anything
>>>>>> I could put something like this further down. Yet even then the
>>>>>> question remains what to do with ranges which pass
>>>>>> iomem_access_permitted() but
>>>>>> - aren't really MMIO,
>>>>>> - are inside MMCFG,
>>>>>> - are otherwise special.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or did you perhaps mean to suggest something like
>>>>>>
>>>>>> else if ( is_pv_domain(d) && iomem_access_permitted(d, pfn, pfn) &&
>>>>>>           rangeset_contains_singleton(mmio_ro_ranges, pfn) )
>>>>>>     return IOMMUF_readable;
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think this would be fully correct, as we would still allow
>>>>> mappings of IO-APIC pages explicitly banned in ->iomem_caps by not
>>>>> handling those?
>>>>
>>>> CPU side mappings don't deal with the IO-APICs specifically. They only
>>>> care about iomem_caps and mmio_ro_ranges. Hence explicitly banned
>>>> IO-APIC pages cannot be mapped there either. (Of course we only do
>>>> such banning if IO-APIC pages weren't possible to represent in
>>>> mmio_ro_ranges, which should effectively be never.)
>>>
>>> I think I haven't expressed myself correctly.
>>>
>>> This construct won't return 0 for pfns not in iomem_caps, and hence
>>> could allow mapping of addresses not in iomem_caps?
>>
>> I'm afraid I don't understand: There's an iomem_access_permitted()
>> in the conditional. How would this allow mapping pages outside of
>> iomem_caps? The default case higher up has already forced perms to
>> zero for any non-RAM page (unless iommu_hwdom_inclusive).
> 
> It was my understanding that when using iommu_hwdom_inclusive (or
> iommu_hwdom_reserved if the IO-APIC page is a reserved region) we
> still want to deny access to the IO-APIC page if it's not in
> iomem_caps, and the proposed conditional won't do that.
> 
> So I guess the discussion is really whether
> iommu_hwdom_{inclusive,reserved} take precedence over ->iomem_caps?

I think the intended interaction is not spelled out anywhere. I
also think that it is to be expected for such interaction to be
quirky; after all the options themselves are quirks.

> It seems a bit inconsistent IMO to enforce mmio_ro_ranges but not
> ->iomem_caps when using iommu_hwdom_{inclusive,reserved}.

In a way, yes. But as said before - it's highly theoretical for
IO-APIC pages to not be in ->iomem_caps (and this case also won't
go silently).

Jan



  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-04 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-25  8:29 [PATCH v4 00/21] IOMMU: superpage support when not sharing pagetables Jan Beulich
2022-04-25  8:30 ` [PATCH v4 01/21] AMD/IOMMU: correct potentially-UB shifts Jan Beulich
2022-04-27 13:08   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-04-27 13:57     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-03 10:10   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-03 14:34     ` Jan Beulich
2022-04-25  8:32 ` [PATCH v4 02/21] IOMMU: simplify unmap-on-error in iommu_map() Jan Beulich
2022-04-27 13:16   ` Andrew Cooper
2022-04-27 14:05     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-03 10:25   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-03 14:37     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-03 16:22       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:32 ` [PATCH v4 03/21] IOMMU: add order parameter to ->{,un}map_page() hooks Jan Beulich
2022-04-25  8:33 ` [PATCH v4 04/21] IOMMU: have iommu_{,un}map() split requests into largest possible chunks Jan Beulich
2022-05-03 12:37   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-03 14:44     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-04 10:20       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:34 ` [PATCH v4 05/21] IOMMU/x86: restrict IO-APIC mappings for PV Dom0 Jan Beulich
2022-05-03 13:00   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-03 14:50     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-04  9:32       ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-04 10:30         ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-04 10:51           ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-04 12:01             ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-04 12:12               ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-04 13:00                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-04 13:19                   ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-04 13:46                     ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-04 13:55                       ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2022-05-04 15:22                         ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:34 ` [PATCH v4 06/21] IOMMU/x86: perform PV Dom0 mappings in batches Jan Beulich
2022-05-03 14:49   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-04  9:46     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-04 11:20       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-04 12:27         ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-04 13:55           ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-04 14:26             ` Jan Beulich
2022-04-25  8:35 ` [PATCH v4 07/21] IOMMU/x86: support freeing of pagetables Jan Beulich
2022-05-03 16:20   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-04 13:07     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-04 15:06       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-05  8:20         ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-05  9:57           ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:36 ` [PATCH v4 08/21] AMD/IOMMU: walk trees upon page fault Jan Beulich
2022-05-04 15:57   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:37 ` [PATCH v4 09/21] AMD/IOMMU: return old PTE from {set,clear}_iommu_pte_present() Jan Beulich
2022-04-25  8:38 ` [PATCH v4 10/21] AMD/IOMMU: allow use of superpage mappings Jan Beulich
2022-05-05 13:19   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-05 14:34     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-05 15:26       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:38 ` [PATCH v4 11/21] VT-d: " Jan Beulich
2022-05-05 16:20   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-06  6:13     ` Jan Beulich
2022-04-25  8:40 ` [PATCH v4 12/21] IOMMU: fold flush-all hook into "flush one" Jan Beulich
2022-05-06  8:38   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-06  9:59     ` Jan Beulich
2022-04-25  8:40 ` [PATCH v4 13/21] IOMMU/x86: prefill newly allocate page tables Jan Beulich
2022-05-06 11:16   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-19 12:12     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20 10:47       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-20 11:11         ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20 11:13           ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20 12:22             ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-20 12:36               ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20 14:28                 ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-20 14:38                   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-23  6:49                     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-23  9:10                       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-23 10:52                         ` Jan Beulich
2022-04-25  8:41 ` [PATCH v4 14/21] x86: introduce helper for recording degree of contiguity in " Jan Beulich
2022-05-06 13:25   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-18 10:06     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20 10:22       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-20 10:59         ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20 11:27           ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:42 ` [PATCH v4 15/21] AMD/IOMMU: free all-empty " Jan Beulich
2022-05-10 13:30   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-18 10:18     ` Jan Beulich
2022-04-25  8:42 ` [PATCH v4 16/21] VT-d: " Jan Beulich
2022-04-27  4:09   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-10 14:30   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-18 10:26     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20  0:38       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-20 11:13       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-27  7:40         ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-27  7:53           ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-27  9:21             ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:43 ` [PATCH v4 17/21] AMD/IOMMU: replace all-contiguous page tables by superpage mappings Jan Beulich
2022-05-10 15:31   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-18 10:40     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20 10:35       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:43 ` [PATCH v4 18/21] VT-d: " Jan Beulich
2022-05-11 11:08   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-18 10:44     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20 10:38       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:44 ` [PATCH v4 19/21] IOMMU/x86: add perf counters for page table splitting / coalescing Jan Beulich
2022-05-11 13:48   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-18 11:39     ` Jan Beulich
2022-05-20 10:41       ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:44 ` [PATCH v4 20/21] VT-d: fold iommu_flush_iotlb{,_pages}() Jan Beulich
2022-04-27  4:12   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-11 13:50   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-04-25  8:45 ` [PATCH v4 21/21] VT-d: fold dma_pte_clear_one() into its only caller Jan Beulich
2022-04-27  4:13   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-11 13:57   ` Roger Pau Monné
2022-05-18 12:50 ` [PATCH v4 00/21] IOMMU: superpage support when not sharing pagetables Jan Beulich

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