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From: ming.lei@redhat.com (Ming Lei)
Subject: [PATCH V2 3/3] nvme pci: introduce module parameter of 'default_queues'
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 10:12:39 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190103021237.GA25044@ming.t460p> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABhMZUXoZkMGd3+54KxXU4nX-h=sbO5SBm-893ZHc3WU6BvN1w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 02, 2019@02:11:22PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> [Sorry about the quote corruption below.  I'm responding with gmail in
> plain text mode, but seems like it corrupted some of the quoting when
> saving as a draft]
> 
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2018@11:47 PM Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com> wrote:
> &gt;
> &gt; On Mon, Dec 31, 2018@03:24:55PM -0600, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> &gt; &gt; On Fri, Dec 28, 2018@9:27 PM Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com> wrote:
> &gt; &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; On big system with lots of CPU cores, it is easy to
> consume up irq
> &gt; &gt; &gt; vectors by assigning defaut queue with
> num_possible_cpus() irq vectors.
> &gt; &gt; &gt; Meantime it is often not necessary to allocate so many
> vectors for
> &gt; &gt; &gt; reaching NVMe's top performance under that situation.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; s/defaut/default/
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; &gt; This patch introduces module parameter of 'default_queues' to try
> &gt; &gt; &gt; to address this issue reported by Shan Hai.
> &gt; &gt;
> &gt; &gt; Is there a URL to this report by Shan?
> &gt;
> &gt; http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-nvme/2018-December/021863.html
> &gt; http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-nvme/2018-December/021862.html
> &gt;
> &gt; http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/linux-nvme/2018-December/021872.html
> 
> It'd be good to include this.  I think the first is the interesting
> one.  It'd be nicer to have an https://lore.kernel.org/... URL, but it
> doesn't look like lore hosts linux-nvme yet.  (Is anybody working on
> that?  I have some archives I could contribute, but other folks
> probably have more.)
> 
> </ming.lei at redhat.com></ming.lei at redhat.com>
> > >
> > > Is there some way you can figure this out automatically instead of
> > > forcing the user to use a module parameter?
> >
> > Not yet, otherwise, I won't post this patch out.
> >
> > > If not, can you provide some guidance in the changelog for how a user
> > > is supposed to figure out when it's needed and what the value should
> > > be?  If you add the parameter, I assume that will eventually have to
> > > be mentioned in a release note, and it would be nice to have something
> > > to start from.
> >
> > Ok, that is a good suggestion, how about documenting it via the
> > following words:
> >
> > Number of IRQ vectors is system-wide resource, and usually it is big enough
> > for each device. However, we allocate num_possible_cpus() + 1 irq vectors for
> > each NVMe PCI controller. In case that system has lots of CPU cores, or there
> > are more than one NVMe controller, IRQ vectors can be consumed up
> > easily by NVMe. When this issue is triggered, please try to pass smaller
> > default queues via the module parameter of 'default_queues', usually
> > it have to be >= number of NUMA nodes, meantime it needs be big enough
> > to reach NVMe's top performance, which is often less than num_possible_cpus()
> > + 1.
> 
> You say "when this issue is triggered."  How does the user know when
> this issue triggered?

Any PCI IRQ vector allocation fails.

> 
> The failure in Shan's email (021863.html) is a pretty ugly hotplug
> failure and it would take me personally a long time to connect it with
> an IRQ exhaustion issue and even longer to dig out this module
> parameter to work around it.  I suppose if we run out of IRQ numbers,
> NVMe itself might work fine, but some other random driver might be
> broken?

Yeah, seems that is true in Shan's report.

However, Shan mentioned that the issue is only triggered in case of
CPU hotplug, especially "The allocation is caused by IRQ migration of
non-managed interrupts from dying to online CPUs."

I still don't understand why new IRQ vector allocation is involved
under CPU hotplug since Shan mentioned that no IRQ exhaustion issue
during booting.

Maybe Shan has ideas about the exact/direct reason, it is really caused
by IRQ vector exhaustion, or is there IRQ vector leak in the NIC
driver triggered by CPU hotplug? Or other reason?

> 
> Do you have any suggestions for how to make this easier for users?  I
> don't even know whether the dev_watchdog() WARN() or the bnxt_en error
> is the important clue.

If the root cause is that we run out of PCI IRQ vectors, at least I saw
such aarch64 system(NR_IRQS is 96, and CPU cores is 64, with NVMe).

IMO, only PCI subsystem has the enough knowledge(how many PCI devices, max
vectors for each device, how many IRQ vectors in the system, ...) to figure
out if NVMe may take too many vectors. So long term goal may be to limit the
max allowed number for NVMe or other big consumer.

Thanks, 
Ming

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-03  2:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-29  3:26 [PATCH V2 0/3] nvme pci: two fixes on nvme_setup_irqs Ming Lei
2018-12-29  3:26 ` Ming Lei
2018-12-29  3:26 ` [PATCH V2 1/3] PCI/MSI: preference to returning -ENOSPC from pci_alloc_irq_vectors_affinity Ming Lei
2018-12-29  3:26   ` Ming Lei
2018-12-31 22:00   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-12-31 22:00     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-12-31 22:41     ` Keith Busch
2018-12-31 22:41       ` Keith Busch
2019-01-01  5:24     ` Ming Lei
2019-01-01  5:24       ` Ming Lei
2019-01-02 21:02       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-02 21:02         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-02 22:46         ` Keith Busch
2019-01-02 22:46           ` Keith Busch
2018-12-29  3:26 ` [PATCH V2 2/3] nvme pci: fix nvme_setup_irqs() Ming Lei
2018-12-29  3:26 ` [PATCH V2 3/3] nvme pci: introduce module parameter of 'default_queues' Ming Lei
2018-12-31 21:24   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-01  5:47     ` Ming Lei
2019-01-02  2:14       ` Shan Hai
     [not found]         ` <20190102073607.GA25590@ming.t460p>
     [not found]           ` <d59007c6-af13-318c-5c9d-438ad7d9149d@oracle.com>
     [not found]             ` <20190102083901.GA26881@ming.t460p>
2019-01-03  2:04               ` Shan Hai
2019-01-02 20:11       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2019-01-03  2:12         ` Ming Lei [this message]
2019-01-03  2:52           ` Shan Hai
2019-01-03  3:11             ` Shan Hai
2019-01-03  3:31               ` Ming Lei
2019-01-03  4:36                 ` Shan Hai
2019-01-03 10:34                   ` Ming Lei
2019-01-04  2:53                     ` Shan Hai
2019-01-03  4:51                 ` Shan Hai
2019-01-03  3:21             ` Ming Lei
2019-01-14 13:13 ` [PATCH V2 0/3] nvme pci: two fixes on nvme_setup_irqs John Garry
2019-01-14 13:13   ` John Garry

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