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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	ying.huang@intel.com, kirill@shutemov.name,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 15/25] mm, compaction: Finish pageblock scanning on contention
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 17:11:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190117171122.GK27437@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab29ee0b-6b01-c57e-7d7d-de540f06ce07@suse.cz>

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 05:38:36PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > rate but also by the fact that the scanners do not meet for longer when
> > pageblocks are actually used. Overall this is justified and completing
> > a pageblock scan is very important for later patches.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
> 
> Acked-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> 
> Some comments below.
> 

Thanks

> > @@ -538,18 +535,8 @@ static unsigned long isolate_freepages_block(struct compact_control *cc,
> >  		 * recheck as well.
> >  		 */
> >  		if (!locked) {
> > -			/*
> > -			 * The zone lock must be held to isolate freepages.
> > -			 * Unfortunately this is a very coarse lock and can be
> > -			 * heavily contended if there are parallel allocations
> > -			 * or parallel compactions. For async compaction do not
> > -			 * spin on the lock and we acquire the lock as late as
> > -			 * possible.
> > -			 */
> > -			locked = compact_trylock_irqsave(&cc->zone->lock,
> > +			locked = compact_lock_irqsave(&cc->zone->lock,
> >  								&flags, cc);
> > -			if (!locked)
> > -				break;
> 
> Seems a bit dangerous to continue compact_lock_irqsave() to return bool that
> however now always returns true, and remove the safety checks that test the
> result. Easy for somebody in the future to reintroduce some 'return false'
> condition (even though the name now says lock and not trylock) and start
> crashing. I would either change it to return void, or leave the checks in place.
> 

I considered changing it from bool at the same time as "Rework
compact_should_abort as compact_check_resched". It turned out to be a
bit clumsy because the locked state must be explicitly updated in the
caller then. e.g.

locked = compact_lock_irqsave(...)

becomes

compact_lock_irqsave(...)
locked = true

I didn't think the result looked that great to be honest but maybe it's
worth revisiting as a cleanup patch like "Rework compact_should_abort as
compact_check_resched" on top.

> > 
> > @@ -1411,12 +1395,8 @@ static void isolate_freepages(struct compact_control *cc)
> >  		isolate_freepages_block(cc, &isolate_start_pfn, block_end_pfn,
> >  					freelist, false);
> >  
> > -		/*
> > -		 * If we isolated enough freepages, or aborted due to lock
> > -		 * contention, terminate.
> > -		 */
> > -		if ((cc->nr_freepages >= cc->nr_migratepages)
> > -							|| cc->contended) {
> 
> Does it really make sense to continue in the case of free scanner, when we know
> we will just return back the extra pages in the end? release_freepages() will
> update the cached pfns, but the pageblock skip bit will stay, so we just leave
> those pages behind. Unless finishing the block is important for the later
> patches (as changelog mentions) even in the case of free scanner, but then we
> can just skip the rest of it, as truly scanning it can't really help anything?
> 

Finishing is important for later patches is one factor but not the only
factor. While we eventually return all pages, we do not know at this
point in time how many free pages are needed. Remember the migration
source isolates COMPACT_CLUSTER_MAX pages and then looks for migration
targets.  If the source isolates 32 pages, free might isolate more from
one pageblock but that's ok as the migration source may need more free
pages in the immediate future. It's less wasteful than it looks at first
glance (or second or even third glance).

However, if we isolated exactly enough targets, and the pageblock gets
marked skipped, then each COMPACT_CLUSTER_MAX isolation from the target
could potentially marge one new pageblock unnecessarily and increase
scanning+resets overall. That would be bad.

There still can be waste because we do not know in advance exactly how
many migration sources there will be -- sure, we could calculate it but
that involves scanning the source pageblock twice which is wasteful.
I did try estimating it based on the remaining number of pages in the
pageblock but the additional complexity did not appear to help.

Does that make sense?

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-17 17:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-04 12:49 [PATCH 00/25] Increase success rates and reduce latency of compaction v2 Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 01/25] mm, compaction: Shrink compact_control Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 02/25] mm, compaction: Rearrange compact_control Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 03/25] mm, compaction: Remove last_migrated_pfn from compact_control Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 04/25] mm, compaction: Remove unnecessary zone parameter in some instances Mel Gorman
2019-01-15 11:43   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 05/25] mm, compaction: Rename map_pages to split_map_pages Mel Gorman
2019-01-15 11:59   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 06/25] mm, compaction: Skip pageblocks with reserved pages Mel Gorman
2019-01-15 12:10   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-15 12:50     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-16  9:42       ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 07/25] mm, migrate: Immediately fail migration of a page with no migration handler Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 08/25] mm, compaction: Always finish scanning of a full pageblock Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 09/25] mm, compaction: Use the page allocator bulk-free helper for lists of pages Mel Gorman
2019-01-15 12:39   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-16  9:46     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 10/25] mm, compaction: Ignore the fragmentation avoidance boost for isolation and compaction Mel Gorman
2019-01-15 13:18   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 11/25] mm, compaction: Use free lists to quickly locate a migration source Mel Gorman
2019-01-16 13:15   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-16 14:33     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-16 15:00       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-16 15:43         ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 12/25] mm, compaction: Keep migration source private to a single compaction instance Mel Gorman
2019-01-16 15:45   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-16 16:15     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-17  9:29       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-17  9:40   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-04 12:49 ` [PATCH 13/25] mm, compaction: Use free lists to quickly locate a migration target Mel Gorman
2019-01-17 14:36   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-17 15:51     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 14/25] mm, compaction: Avoid rescanning the same pageblock multiple times Mel Gorman
2019-01-17 15:16   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-17 16:00     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 15/25] mm, compaction: Finish pageblock scanning on contention Mel Gorman
2019-01-17 16:38   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-17 17:11     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2019-01-18  8:57       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 16/25] mm, compaction: Check early for huge pages encountered by the migration scanner Mel Gorman
2019-01-17 17:01   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-17 17:35     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 17/25] mm, compaction: Keep cached migration PFNs synced for unusable pageblocks Mel Gorman
2019-01-17 17:17   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-17 17:37     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 18/25] mm, compaction: Rework compact_should_abort as compact_check_resched Mel Gorman
2019-01-17 17:27   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 19/25] mm, compaction: Do not consider a need to reschedule as contention Mel Gorman
2019-01-17 17:33   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-17 18:05     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 20/25] mm, compaction: Reduce unnecessary skipping of migration target scanner Mel Gorman
2019-01-17 17:58   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-17 19:39     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-18  9:09       ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 21/25] mm, compaction: Round-robin the order while searching the free lists for a target Mel Gorman
2019-01-18  9:17   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 22/25] mm, compaction: Sample pageblocks for free pages Mel Gorman
2019-01-18 10:38   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-18 13:44     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 23/25] mm, compaction: Be selective about what pageblocks to clear skip hints Mel Gorman
2019-01-18 12:55   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-18 14:10     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 24/25] mm, compaction: Capture a page under direct compaction Mel Gorman
2019-01-18 13:40   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-18 14:39     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-04 12:50 ` [PATCH 25/25] mm, compaction: Do not direct compact remote memory Mel Gorman
2019-01-18 13:51   ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-01-18 14:46     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-07 23:43 ` [PATCH 00/25] Increase success rates and reduce latency of compaction v2 Andrew Morton
2019-01-08  9:12   ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-09 11:13 ` [PATCH] mm, compaction: Use free lists to quickly locate a migration target -fix Mel Gorman
2019-01-09 19:27   ` Andrew Morton
2019-01-09 21:26     ` Mel Gorman
2019-01-09 11:15 ` [PATCH] mm, compaction: Finish pageblock scanning on contention -fix Mel Gorman
2019-01-09 11:16 ` [PATCH] mm, compaction: Round-robin the order while searching the free lists for a target -fix Mel Gorman

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