From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
Changbin Du <changbin.du@gmail.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2 v2] kprobe: Do not use uaccess functions to access kernel memory that can fault
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 19:19:49 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190215191949.04604191@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <300C4516-A093-43AE-8707-1C42486807A4@amacapital.net>
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 15:49:35 -0800
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> I’m missing most of the context here, but even probe_kernel_...() is
> unwise for a totally untrustworthy address. It could be MMIO, for
> example.
True, but kprobes are used like modules, and only allowed by root. They
are used to poke literally anywhere one wants. That's the entire
purpose of kprobes.
>
> If needed, we could come up with a safe-ish helper for tracing. For
> direct-map addresses, probe_kernel_...() is probably okay. Same for
> the current stack. Otherwise we could walk the page tables and check
> that the address is cacheable, I suppose, although this is slightly
> dubious if we don’t also check MTRRs. We could also check that the PA
> is in main memory, I suppose, although this may have unfortunate
> interactions with the MCE code.
I added you just because I wanted help getting the change log correct,
as that's what Linus was complaining about. I kept using "kernel
address" when the sample bug used for the patch was really a
non-canonical address (as Linus said, it's just garbage. Neither kernel
or user space). But I pointed out that this can also bug if the
address is canonical and in the kernel address space. The old code
didn't complain about non-canonical or kernel address faulting before
commit 9da3f2b7405, which only talks about kernel address space
faulting (which is why I only mentioned that in my messages).
Would changing all the mention of "kernel address" to "non user space"
be accurate?
For reference:
http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190215174945.557218316@goodmis.org
http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190215142015.860423791@goodmis.org
-- Steve
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-16 0:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-15 17:47 [PATCH 0/2 v2] [GIT PULL (take two)] tracing: Two more fixes Steven Rostedt
2019-02-15 17:47 ` [PATCH 1/2 v2] kprobe: Do not use uaccess functions to access kernel memory that can fault Steven Rostedt
2019-02-15 17:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-15 22:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-15 23:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-16 0:19 ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2019-02-16 1:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-16 2:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-16 2:14 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-16 2:21 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-18 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-18 18:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-19 16:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-19 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-19 19:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-20 8:10 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-20 13:57 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-20 14:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-20 15:08 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-20 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-20 16:04 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-20 16:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-21 7:37 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 8:27 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 8:35 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 17:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 17:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-22 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 19:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-22 19:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 19:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-22 19:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 19:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-22 19:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-22 21:43 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 22:08 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 22:17 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 22:21 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 22:39 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 23:02 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 23:22 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-22 23:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-23 0:03 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23 0:15 ` Nadav Amit
2019-02-24 19:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25 13:36 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-22 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 21:38 ` David Miller
2019-02-22 21:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 22:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-22 23:11 ` Jann Horn
2019-02-22 23:16 ` David Miller
2019-02-22 23:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-22 23:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23 2:28 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-02-23 2:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-23 3:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-23 4:51 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-26 3:57 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-02-26 15:24 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-02-28 12:29 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-28 15:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-02-23 3:47 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-24 0:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-24 4:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-24 15:17 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-24 17:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-25 2:40 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-25 4:49 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25 8:09 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-25 16:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-26 1:35 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-25 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 14:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-25 16:48 ` Kees Cook
2019-02-25 16:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-02-25 17:07 ` Kees Cook
2019-02-21 7:52 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-21 14:36 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-21 15:58 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-21 16:16 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-21 16:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2019-02-23 14:48 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2019-02-15 17:47 ` [PATCH 2/2 v2] tracing: Fix number of entries in trace header Steven Rostedt
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