From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-rdma <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LSF/MM TOPIC] Discuss least bad options for resolving longterm-GUP usage by RDMA
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 15:00:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190215220031.GB8001@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01000168f26d9e0c-aef3255a-5059-4657-b241-dae66663bbea-000000@email.amazonses.com>
On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 06:31:36PM +0000, Christopher Lameter wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
>
> > > Since RDMA is something similar: Can we say that a file that is used for
> > > RDMA should not use the page cache?
> >
> > That makes no sense. The page cache is the standard synchronisation point
> > for filesystems and processes. The only problems come in for the things
> > which bypass the page cache like O_DIRECT and DAX.
>
> It makes a lot of sense since the filesystems play COW etc games with the
> pages and RDMA is very much like O_DIRECT in that the pages are modified
> directly under I/O. It also bypasses the page cache in case you have
> not noticed yet.
It is quite different, O_DIRECT modifies the physical blocks on the
storage, bypassing the memory copy. RDMA modifies the memory copy.
pages are necessary to do RDMA, and those pages have to be flushed to
disk.. So I'm not seeing how it can be disconnected from the page
cache?
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-15 22:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-05 17:50 [LSF/MM TOPIC] Discuss least bad options for resolving longterm-GUP usage by RDMA Ira Weiny
2019-02-05 18:01 ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-06 21:31 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-06 9:50 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-06 17:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 17:52 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 18:32 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 18:32 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 18:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 18:44 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 18:44 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 18:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 19:45 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 19:45 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 20:14 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 21:04 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 21:04 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 21:12 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 21:12 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 19:16 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-06 19:16 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-06 19:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 20:16 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:16 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:20 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 20:28 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:28 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:41 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 20:47 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:47 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:49 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-06 20:50 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:50 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 20:39 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-06 20:39 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-06 20:54 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 20:54 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 16:48 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-06 20:24 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-06 20:24 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-06 21:03 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-06 22:08 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 22:24 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 22:24 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-06 22:44 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 22:44 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 23:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-06 23:30 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 23:30 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-06 23:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07 0:22 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 0:22 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 0:22 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 0:22 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 5:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07 1:57 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 1:57 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 2:48 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 2:48 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 2:48 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 2:48 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 2:42 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 2:42 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 3:13 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 3:13 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 17:23 ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-07 16:25 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 16:25 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 16:55 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-07 16:55 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-07 17:35 ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-07 18:17 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-07 18:17 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-08 4:43 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-08 11:10 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-08 20:50 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-08 20:50 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 10:24 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-11 17:22 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 17:22 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 18:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-11 18:15 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 18:15 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 18:19 ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-11 18:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-11 18:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-11 19:58 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 19:58 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 20:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-11 21:02 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 21:02 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-11 21:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-12 16:34 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-12 16:55 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-12 16:55 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-13 15:06 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-12 16:36 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-12 16:36 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-12 16:44 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-11 21:08 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-11 21:22 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-11 21:22 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-11 22:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-11 22:33 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-11 22:33 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-12 16:39 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-12 16:39 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-13 2:58 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-13 2:58 ` John Hubbard
2019-02-12 16:28 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-14 20:26 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-14 20:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-14 21:39 ` Jerome Glisse
2019-02-15 1:19 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-15 15:42 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-15 15:42 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-15 18:08 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-15 18:31 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-15 18:31 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-15 22:00 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2019-02-15 23:38 ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-16 22:42 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-17 2:54 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-17 2:54 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-12 16:07 ` Jan Kara
2019-02-12 21:53 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-12 21:53 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-08 21:20 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-08 15:33 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-08 15:33 ` Christopher Lameter
2019-02-07 17:24 ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-02-07 17:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07 3:52 ` Dave Chinner
2019-02-07 5:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07 6:00 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 6:00 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 17:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07 23:54 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-07 23:54 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-08 1:44 ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-08 5:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-08 7:20 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-08 7:20 ` Dan Williams
2019-02-08 15:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-02-07 15:04 ` Chuck Lever
2019-02-07 15:28 ` Tom Talpey
2019-02-07 15:37 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 15:37 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 15:41 ` Tom Talpey
2019-02-07 15:56 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 15:56 ` Doug Ledford
2019-02-07 16:57 ` Ira Weiny
2019-02-07 21:31 ` Tom Talpey
2019-02-07 16:54 ` Ira Weiny
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