From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DD05C10F00 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 16:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F003321773 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 16:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1728893AbfBSQSF (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:18:05 -0500 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:54746 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726110AbfBSQSF (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:18:05 -0500 Received: from gandalf.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CBE182147A; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 16:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 11:18:02 -0500 From: Steven Rostedt To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Andy Lutomirski , Linux List Kernel Mailing , Ingo Molnar , Andrew Morton , stable , Changbin Du , Jann Horn , Kees Cook , Andy Lutomirski , Masami Hiramatsu Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2 v2] kprobe: Do not use uaccess functions to access kernel memory that can fault Message-ID: <20190219111802.1d6dbaa3@gandalf.local.home> In-Reply-To: References: <20190215174712.372898450@goodmis.org> <20190215174945.557218316@goodmis.org> <20190215171539.4682f0b4@gandalf.local.home> <300C4516-A093-43AE-8707-1C42486807A4@amacapital.net> <20190215191949.04604191@gandalf.local.home> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org [ Added Masami too. Start of thread is here: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190215174712.372898450@goodmis.org ] On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 10:23:44 -0800 Linus Torvalds wrote: > So it would be good to not just say "user or kernel", but actually say > what *kind* of kernel access it expects. Note, kprobes are a different kind of beast. I've used kprobes to probe userspace information as well as kernel. Heck, I could see someone even using kprobes to probe IO memory to check if a device is doing what they expect it's doing. Basically, a kprobe is mostly used for debugging what's happening in a live kernel, to read any address. But for those that are more security minded, perhaps we could add "layers" via CONFIG or /sys files that prevent kprobes from doing certain kinds of probes? -- Steve