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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Valentin Schneider <valentin.schneider@arm.com>
Cc: mingo@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, pjt@google.com,
	tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, subhra.mazumdar@oracle.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, keescook@chromium.org, kerrnel@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 15/16] sched: Trivial forced-newidle balancer
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 17:47:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190221164702.GY32534@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190221164146.GV32494@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 05:41:46PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 04:19:46PM +0000, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 18/02/2019 16:56, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > [...]
> > > +static bool try_steal_cookie(int this, int that)
> > > +{
> > > +	struct rq *dst = cpu_rq(this), *src = cpu_rq(that);
> > > +	struct task_struct *p;
> > > +	unsigned long cookie;
> > > +	bool success = false;
> > > +
> > > +	local_irq_disable();
> > > +	double_rq_lock(dst, src);
> > > +
> > > +	cookie = dst->core->core_cookie;
> > > +	if (!cookie)
> > > +		goto unlock;
> > > +
> > > +	if (dst->curr != dst->idle)
> > > +		goto unlock;
> > > +
> > > +	p = sched_core_find(src, cookie);
> > > +	if (p == src->idle)
> > > +		goto unlock;
> > > +
> > > +	do {
> > > +		if (p == src->core_pick || p == src->curr)
> > > +			goto next;
> > > +
> > > +		if (!cpumask_test_cpu(this, &p->cpus_allowed))
> > > +			goto next;
> > > +
> > > +		if (p->core_occupation > dst->idle->core_occupation)
> > > +			goto next;
> > > +
> > 
> > IIUC, we're trying to find/steal tasks matching the core_cookie from other
> > rqs because dst has been cookie-forced-idle.
> > 
> > If the p we find isn't running, what's the meaning of core_occupation?
> > I would have expected it to be 0, but we don't seem to be clearing it when
> > resetting the state in pick_next_task().
> 
> Indeed. We preserve the occupation from the last time around; it's not
> perfect but its better than nothing.
> 
> Consider there's two groups; and we just happen to run the other group.
> Then our occopation, being what it was last, is still accurate. When
> next we run, we'll again get that many siblings together.
> 
> > If it is running, we prevent the stealing if the core it's on is running
> > more matching tasks than the core of the pulling rq. It feels to me as if
> > that's a balancing tweak to try to cram as many matching tasks as possible
> > in a single core, so to me this reads as "don't steal my tasks if I'm
> > running more than you are, but I will steal tasks from you if I'm given
> > the chance". Is that correct?
> 
> Correct, otherwise an SMT4 with 5 tasks could end up ping-ponging the
> one task forever.
> 
> Note that a further condition a little up the callchain from here only
> does this stealing if the thread was forced-idle -- ie. it had something
> to run anyway. So under the condition where there simple aren't enough
> tasks to keep all siblings busy, we'll not compact just cause.

Better example; it will avoid stealing a task from a full SMT2 core to
fill another.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-21 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-18 16:56 [RFC][PATCH 00/16] sched: Core scheduling Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/16] stop_machine: Fix stop_cpus_in_progress ordering Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/16] sched: Fix kerneldoc comment for ia64_set_curr_task Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/16] sched: Wrap rq::lock access Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 16:13   ` Phil Auld
2019-02-19 16:22     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19 16:37       ` Phil Auld
2019-03-18 15:41   ` Julien Desfossez
2019-03-20  2:29     ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-21 21:20       ` Julien Desfossez
2019-03-22 13:34         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-22 20:59           ` Julien Desfossez
2019-03-23  0:06         ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-27  1:02           ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-29 13:35           ` Julien Desfossez
2019-03-29 22:23             ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-04-01 21:35               ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-04-03 20:16                 ` Julien Desfossez
2019-04-05  1:30                   ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-04-02  7:42               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-22 23:28       ` Tim Chen
2019-03-22 23:44         ` Tim Chen
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/16] sched/{rt,deadline}: Fix set_next_task vs pick_next_task Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/16] sched: Add task_struct pointer to sched_class::set_curr_task Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/16] sched/fair: Export newidle_balance() Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/16] sched: Allow put_prev_task() to drop rq->lock Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/16] sched: Rework pick_next_task() slow-path Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/16] sched: Introduce sched_class::pick_task() Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/16] sched: Core-wide rq->lock Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/16] sched: Basic tracking of matching tasks Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/16] sched: A quick and dirty cgroup tagging interface Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/16] sched: Add core wide task selection and scheduling Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]   ` <20190402064612.GA46500@aaronlu>
2019-04-02  8:28     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-02 13:20       ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-05 14:55       ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-09 18:09         ` Tim Chen
2019-04-10  4:36           ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-10 14:18             ` Aubrey Li
2019-04-11  2:11               ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-10 14:44             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-11  3:05               ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-11  9:19                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-10  8:06           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-10 19:58             ` Vineeth Remanan Pillai
2019-04-15 16:59             ` Julien Desfossez
2019-04-16 13:43       ` Aaron Lu
2019-04-09 18:38   ` Julien Desfossez
2019-04-10 15:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-04-11  0:11     ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-04-19  8:40       ` Ingo Molnar
2019-04-19 23:16         ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 14/16] sched/fair: Add a few assertions Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 15/16] sched: Trivial forced-newidle balancer Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 16:19   ` Valentin Schneider
2019-02-21 16:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 16:47       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2019-02-21 18:28         ` Valentin Schneider
2019-04-04  8:31       ` Aubrey Li
2019-04-06  1:36         ` Aubrey Li
2019-02-18 16:56 ` [RFC][PATCH 16/16] sched: Debug bits Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-18 17:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/16] sched: Core scheduling Linus Torvalds
2019-02-18 20:40   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-19  0:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-02-19 15:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2019-02-22 12:17     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-02-22 14:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-22 19:26         ` Tim Chen
2019-02-26  8:26           ` Aubrey Li
2019-02-27  7:54             ` Aubrey Li
2019-02-21  2:53   ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-02-21 14:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-21 18:44       ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-02-22  0:34       ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-02-22 12:45   ` Mel Gorman
2019-02-22 16:10     ` Mel Gorman
2019-03-08 19:44     ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-11  4:23       ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-11 18:34         ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-11 23:33           ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-12  0:20             ` Greg Kerr
2019-03-12  0:47               ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-12  7:33               ` Aaron Lu
2019-03-12  7:45             ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-13  5:55               ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-14  0:35                 ` Tim Chen
2019-03-14  5:30                   ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-14  6:07                     ` Li, Aubrey
2019-03-18  6:56             ` Aubrey Li
2019-03-12 19:07           ` Pawan Gupta
2019-03-26  7:32       ` Aaron Lu
2019-03-26  7:56         ` Aaron Lu
2019-02-19 22:07 ` Greg Kerr
2019-02-20  9:42   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-02-20 18:33     ` Greg Kerr
2019-02-22 14:10       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-03-07 22:06         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-02-20 18:43     ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-01  2:54 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2019-03-14 15:28 ` Julien Desfossez

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